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World of Batsh!t - #2: Moon Loons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pat Jun 10. 7 Replies

The moon's a balloon, so says the song.  Problem is, there's a guy out there, perhaps more than one, who want to claim that the moon is actually a PROJECTION (up around 55,000 ft, so he claims!), and…Continue

Tags: CoolHardLogic, batshit, hologram, moon

World of Batsh!t - #1: Sky Demons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 5. 6 Replies

We've all seen it - claims either so outrageous or so ignorant that they test the bounds of credibility, and they're usually, though not always associated with religion.  Well, it would seem that…Continue

Tags: mon-roe, Sky Demons, CoolHardLogic, batshit

What kind of smoke alarms do you have? (Daily Kos)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 26. 4 Replies

I get an email of links to mostly political pieces from the Daily Kos every day, and that's how I became aware of the following.  Personally, I have no idea whether the three smoke detectors we have…Continue

Tags: carbon monoxide, photoelectric, ionization, detector, smoke

Thinkers Anonymous

Started this discussion. Last reply by Freethinker31 Jul 28. 16 Replies

Right off the top - I did not write this, and I honestly do not know who did.  I stumbled onto it this morning on the hard drive of my laptop, in a folder of a collection of written pieces I have…Continue

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About Me:
I'm a semi-retired / involuntarily unemployed electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here a touch over four years!), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion CBS censoring FFRF
"Joan, in simple terms: don't worry about it!  I'm just glad we have a few atheists here who got in the Big Eye's face and told them that they screwed up!  Besides, I put that statement up there to be used if someone wanted…"
3 hours ago
Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's status
"I saw a somewhat rotund leader of a round-singing session wearing the perfect T-shirt: "I am too in shape. Round is a shape.""
9 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion CBS censoring FFRF
"Good stuff, GC!"
9 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion CBS censoring FFRF
"Glad to help, Michael."
11 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Bertold Brautigan's discussion Huckabee wants to fire atheists working for the government
"[wry grin] They can teach anything they want, I suppose.  What they DON'T want to do is run into me, never mind try to pull that shit on yours truly."
12 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Bertold Brautigan's discussion Huckabee wants to fire atheists working for the government
"To Huckabee and his ilk, the "nones" are a non-entity.  They would just as soon believe we don't exist, and because we don't typically vote as a block, we might as well not.  It is estimated that the nones comprise as…"
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Loren Miller replied to Bertold Brautigan's discussion Huckabee wants to fire atheists working for the government
"You do know he's an ordained minister, right?"
14 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Bertold Brautigan's discussion Huckabee wants to fire atheists working for the government
"Someone needs to give Huckabee and Santorum the news that nonbelievers are as much citizens as the believers are, and if they can't deal with that, perhaps they're the ones who aren't qualified for office!"
15 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Gregory Phillip Dearth's blog post The Irony of Intollerance
"Oh, but THAT's because those guys worship the WRONG DEITY!  The christians all know that THEIR deity is REAL!  Of course, it's real!  Absolutely it's real.And if you believe that one..."
16 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion CBS censoring FFRF
"That said, I just sent the following to CBS via their Feedback page: I guess we'll see what comes out of this."
17 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion CBS censoring FFRF
"Frankly, I am very disappointed in CBS.  I think a lot of their news division, but apparently, there's someone on their staff (maybe more than one) with a stick up their nelly as regards atheism.  Might be time to start a…"
17 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Dr. Allan H. Clark's discussion God, Darwin, and My Biology Class
"One of these days, people will get the idea that there is nothing BUT conflict between science and religion. I wait for that day more anxiously and I can hope to tell you."
Loren Miller commented on Jonathan Tweet's blog post Why Atheist Are Jerks
"Cenek, you just said a mouthful!!!"
Loren Miller commented on Jonathan Tweet's blog post Why Atheist Are Jerks
"FT, anger in my case is a motivator to continued attention and action as regards religious issues.  It is a reminder that I have been wronged by these people, directly and indirectly, by their insistence on inserting their irrational beliefs…"
Loren Miller commented on Jonathan Tweet's blog post Why Atheist Are Jerks
"Much as I admire the character of Spock (Leonard Nimoy's, NOT Zachary Quinto's!), I would not be him, nor would I endorse the idea of others attempting to emulate him as a matter of course."
Loren Miller commented on Jonathan Tweet's blog post Why Atheist Are Jerks
"Sorry, Allan, but I AM angry ... particularly that there are christian radicals out there who are determined to superimpose their beliefs on everyone else, that they feel they have a right to bash gays and Lesbians, disempower women, and indeed to…"
Loren Miller commented on Hiram's blog post Unwanted Children at the Border and the Evil Legacy of Catholicism
"Richard, I seriously doubt that the church has the least interest in feeding its flock.  It's far more interested in controlling and manipulating them to its own purposes, from where I sit."
Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's blog post Are atheists spiritual? Yes! If you mean atheists posses a sense of wonder and love
"You could trot out the word, "numinous" to replace "spiritual" and maybe have better luck, since it's not in as common a usage.  The problem remains, as Harris himself observed, that this class of experiences are almost…"
Loren Miller commented on Jonathan Tweet's blog post Why Atheist Are Jerks
"There's an old equation as regards the issue of insulting believers versus insulting beliefs. I have no problem in attacking beliefs, but so many believers equate themselves with their own belief that any attack on the beliefs is perceived as…"
Loren Miller commented on Jonathan Tweet's blog post Why Atheist Are Jerks
"Atheists may be perceived as jerks because we swim against the tide. We act in contravention of tradition. We don't go with the flow. People are uncomfortable with that, and because they're uncomfortable with us and thus we are seen as…"

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At 9:49am on September 13, 2014, Pat said…

Judge Posner wrote the opinion. This may come as a surprise, but Posner was appointed to the federal appeals court by none other than Ronald Reagan. However, as the Republican Party shifted further and further to the extreme right, he distanced himself from it. If you can get the audio link that recorded the oral arguments, it is fascinating. Posner politely rips the opponents of marriage equality a new one.

At 6:47pm on August 22, 2014, Pat said…

I tend to agree that the next President will be a woman. It will, in all probability, be Jeb Bush v. Hilllary Clinton. My $$$ is on Hillary, just because the Bush name is a gross anathema. If so, the teabaggers will continue to obstruct anything to improve or advance the US. I listen to them scream "I want my country back." Me? I want want my country forward.

At 12:03pm on August 22, 2014, Pat said…

Loren, sorry it's taken me so darn long to get back to you about Boehner's lawsuit against the President. You're correct in that I found it...well, not interesting from the standpoint of Boehner...but more of a bad episode of bizarre theater here in the US.

The author of the article in Daily Kos is 100% correct in that federal courts, unlike state courts, are courts of very limited jurisdiction. The only cases federal courts can hear are those enumerated in the US Constitution,an interpretation of a provision of the Constitution, or what what Congress authorizes them to hear.

Here's the real underlying stupidity of this lawsuit. Congress could pass a statute giving federal courts jurisdiction to hear this case. Before it goes into effect, guess what chief executive of the US government has to sign it into law?

The whole thing is nothing more than a propaganda ploy to get the true believers would up like a group of striped nosed baboons in a primate house throwing feces against the wall. The mid-terms should b interesting.

At 9:39am on August 9, 2014, Andrew Bradford Hoke said…

Hello Loren,

Thanks for welcoming me to the site, and sorry for taking so long to get back to you.

I'm really enjoying this online community. I'm learning a lot and thinkg a lot :)

At 2:39pm on August 6, 2014, Patricia said…

Could probably make the attempt Loren. I feel pretty green here as I was no computer expert to begin with.

I just got thoroughly fed up to the teeth & beyond with Windows getting sticky, & all costly the antivirus/spyware which are MUSTS to run anything! The straw that broke the camel's back was I heard support for Windows 7 runs out in January, but a subscription could be purchased yearly for 5 more years of support. Mr. Gates is getting no more of my pension! I tried a macbook, but couldn't upgrade it & could not afford anything newer. This refurbished vaio 15" laptop was $75 with a fresh install of the Ubuntu.

I'll start writing a draft maybe, & see how it goes.

Thanks Loren.

At 6:02am on July 7, 2014, Zerin Firoz said…

Ya Bangladesh and thanks a lot again for welcoming me so warmly! :)

At 7:42am on June 23, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren! What an affirmation of what I have been trying to get across sine the 1980s. I watched it happen, slowly at first, and then exponentially. I didn't have a computer in those days and did all the calculations from paper and pencil and watched the trendline move upward. 

Thank you much! Indeed, I will order the book and look forward to reading it. 

Buy the way, I didn't see confirmation from economists, even though I read everything I can get my hands on. One day, I ran across Steve Keen, an economist from Australia and he confirmed what I was seeing. Whew!

At 9:42pm on April 26, 2014, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

I edited the title, but once the URL is created, that's fixed.

At 3:08pm on April 21, 2014, K J said…

Thanks for your welcome! I applied to the Clergy Project nearly a year ago and was refused because I could not answer the screener's questions "correctly". At the time I had just admitted to myself (after a 15 year horrendously painful journey) that I am an Atheist, so perhaps that's why I wasn't able to satisfy the screener. I'm considering re-applying, as I am better able to express my thoughts and position. Appreciate your encouragement.

At 1:56pm on February 12, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren, just to let you know I have seen the article you recommended and have it highlighted to read more thoroughly. Thanks for thinking of me about Reagan and Obama. No doubt, I will have a comment or two to make. 

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The Irony of a Frightened Jehovah

Posted on September 7, 2014 at 10:25am 4 Comments

I was watching a profile piece on CBS Sunday Morning about actor Steve Bucemi a bit ago, when I heard that actor in one of his roles offer the following poignant observation:

Do you think God stays in heaven, because he too lives in fear of what he’s created?

If there were a god of any stripe who was responsible for the creation of Homo sapiens, I should think he’d be pissing his pants by now, and with good reason.  Ever since Yahweh made the…


A New Icon for Atheists - Frank Sinatra!

Posted on September 4, 2014 at 7:19am 12 Comments

I can remember the voice of Frank Sinatra from back when I was a kid.  My father wasn't quite a fan, but he had more than a couple albums which got played regularly and which I can still recall in my head when I want to.  Certainly, Ol' Blue Eyes was a vocal technician of the first water.  His intonation, treatment of even the simplest phrase, breath control and overall execution place him deservedly in a rarefied atmosphere shared with a scant few other artists, and that by itself is…


Seth Andrews - "The Ultimate Question"

Posted on July 9, 2014 at 7:00am 6 Comments

Seth Andrews is NOT “The Thinking Atheist.”  He’ll tell you this himself, and doubtless, he’s tired of disavowing that that sobriquet was in any way meant to represent him.  He wanted it to be an icon to represent atheists who THINK, who have reasoned their way to the conclusion: “Religion simply does not make sense.”  All the above notwithstanding, there can be no argument that Mr. Andrews is A thinking atheist, even if he isn’t THE Thinking Atheist.

As evidence to…


The Problem With "The Leftovers"

Posted on June 30, 2014 at 9:14am 15 Comments

When we think of irrational behavior, we naturally think of human beings first, of their ability to act based on belief rather than fact, to operate without regard to their own wellbeing or that of others they are charged with caring for or some other related behavioral anomaly.  However, what if there were an irrationality in the laws of physics and of nature, which allowed two percent of the world’s population to suddenly vanish, with the speed of throwing a light switch?  Babies from…


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