My parents were atheist but my grandmothers tried to shove religion down my throat. My paternal grandmother is Catholic and my maternal grandmother is "born-again Christian" (whatever that's supposed to mean).
Exactly, I know my mother wouldn't mind the fact of me telling her I don't believe in most of it. The matter is I'm a very strong atheist and I'm sure if she knew how heated I will get on the topic, she wouldn't be very happy. I know that Christians see us as some kind of a threat but, I don't really understand why.
Considering I'm mixed (my mother is German and my father is African-American) I spent a lot of my life with my mother so I always went to a very laid back church, called All Saint's Episcopal. It was mostly old white couples, surprisingly my sisters and I were the only touch of any color in that church. I have heard stories from my mother about how the churches my grandmother on my father's side would have the ridiculous; people crawling on the floor, eyes rolling back, etc. Personally, I have never been to a church like that nor will I ever.
My mother's entire family lives in Germany so, she never sees her family except for Skype and such. Being mixed is really hard here because exactly like you said it doesn't matter if you have 3 Caucasian grandparents and 1 African-American, people only see the black and automatically have a disgust with you. Dating is even a problem, I couldn't date many white guys I wanted to because I was "black"...ignorant people. Any who, I'm an honors student, I play Alto Saxophone and Guitar, and have many accomplishments I am proud of and just let the parents know they are very ignorant and arrogant for thinking their race is Superior over someone else's.
Thank you! I honestly can say Roanoke Rapids isn't a fun place to be but, I have seen worse.
I actually had trouble telling my friends about it at first because I knew I would probably not like the responses but finally, I said "I don't care I'm going to become more outspoken." I ended up telling more people about it in my 8th grade year. That being said, it came with the "Oh! You devil worshiper!" etc. (me sitting back laughing at their ignorance) I just ignored the negative comments. Once I got into high school I had a French teacher who always talked about religion in class (which he's not supposed to) and I would always laugh. More people found out about my atheism and they knew me well enough to not make comments because I'm a very up front person to where some almost find it rude but I tell them if they can't accept the truth then they shouldn't ask me things. The crazy thing is, as I told more people about it I have found out a lot more people are atheist or agnostic. I myself am a very strong atheist but, I am having a hard time telling my family because they are all very Christian, I have slowly led my mom to it but she still does not know exactly how I get on the subject of religion.
Thanks =) I actually work full time as a nurse, and my writing and art are more of a hobby currently. I recently got back into a personal blog again and I'm hoping to do some other kinds of writing soon.
It was a joke about the non-belief thing, I'm reading up on Buddhism and it's actually making some sense to me. More over Secular Buddhism seems to have caught my eye, and I'm doing research into it now.
I'm into fantasy believe it or not, but in a way I'm lifting the veil of the supernatural and exposing it for what it is. I'm also working on children's and middle grade ideas. My goal is for children to enjoy fairy tales and stories for what they are but also understand that that's all they are. I want them to think critically about the ideas.
My parents have been divorced since I was young. I live with my mother, who is really a wonderful and supportive person. She believes my siblings and I are the best ones to judge our own beliefs. My catholic upbringing was a result of a condition my father put into the divorce papers that we were to be raised catholic and attend the catholic church until we turned eighteen. I've looked in the library, which doesn't seem to have any books on nontheism. So I am limited to a few blogs that I read regularly.
I live in a smaller town where the people are either Catholic or aggressively Baptist. I was raised Catholic, and, while I have had my doubts for awhile, I haven''t done too much to explore my own lack of belief.
Yeah, Amazon is the way to go, especially where I'm from since there is no real book store in town and I have to drive 30 minutes to a books-a-million. I've watched several of those videos and wow... One of the things that made me start doubting my faith were Christians who acted like the ones calling in and the ones that insisted that the earth was young and dinosaurs and man lived together, etc. I felt that if god were really speaking to them then why are they so ignorant? At the time, I thought god was capable of using evolution as a means to create all the living organisms we see today and I couldn't understand why so many Christians were so certain god was telling them the opposite. I also hear the "what if you're wrong.." question a lot and to me it just seems like a fear-based question, like "well I'm too scared to consider a way of thinking that would send me to hell according to the bible so I'll just believe this way just in case." I don't want go throughout life fearing a god that bases my salvation on ignorance of the world and my blind, unquestioning faith to him.
As for my husband, I believe his faith is mostly fear-based. He's never been comfortable talking about faith for some reason, but he has said that he can't look me in the eye and say with absolute certainty that god exists. He's never had a really strong faith like I had so I'm hopeful he can at least come to a place where he accepts why I came to my current conclusions about god and is okay with it. I'm taking it slowly with him since I don't want to dump it all on him at once and I want to be able to demonstrate to him that I'm not just being stubborn, I actually have thought a great deal about this. One thing that continues to baffle me and disturb me is his insistence that I go to church with him. I've really grown to dislike it since I can see the flawed way of thinking and the intolerant attitude towards the beliefs that I value. I think that (and I know this sounds awful) he is afraid of what other people, especially his family, will think if I were to stop going to church. He would have to explain my absence and answer all the prying questions and I think that really bothers him. We will definately have to reach a compromise on this soon because it's to the point I almost dread Sunday mornings. The child-rearing issue is certainly a big one. We don't have kids now and won't for a long while but I think this is the biggest issue that could really threaten our future together. However, my atheism is still fairly new and it will take time to work out the new issues that have arisen from my honest search for the truth. Time will tell. So I'm trying not to get ahead of myself and I'm taking it one day at a time. Thanks again for all the resources. Oh by the way, have you heard of a youtube channel called Evid3nc3? This guy made a series of videos describing his deconversion from Christianity and I found it encouraging and insightful since his experience was so similar to mine, here's the link if you're interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSy1-Q_BEtQ&feature=plcp&context=C399b9f0UDOEgsToPDskKhKqZR5Suq2FIg0T94Tv4d
This one just gives an overview of what he's about to talk about.
Oh awesome! I have heard of those authors and the books you mentioned. I looked for Carl Sagan's book today at the book store and they didn't have it so I ended up buying A History of God by Karen Armstrong which greatly interests me. I have a lot of free time right now since I just graduated college and I'm looking for a job so I will definately check out those websites. As for my family, my mom is a fundamentalist Christian and thinks evolution is silly because "if it were true why aren't we still evolving? And why don't you see half-man/half-apes walking around?" sigh... but my dad is more open minded and accepts that the earth is billions of years old. I'm not really ready to talk to them about my views yet. So far, nobody is challenging me because I'm still very much in the closet. My husband knows, but I'm going slow with him and am being careful not to dump it all on him at once. My sister also knows and told me that my parents suspect something's up but that they believe god will "complete his good work in me," so they think it's just a phase. Right now I'm just figuring out what I really believe and getting to know myself as an atheist before I go into the arena. Anyway, I certainly appreciate the information you've given me. Thanks.
I'm working on scientific kid's books to fund my book: The Asymptotic World. It is about the epistemology of the true and factual worlds and how the blurring together of conjecture and absolute is destroying the progression of human intelligence. As for Idaho, I am moving out of this black hole. I have found very few logical atheists who aren't wrapped up in how smart they are for being atheist. All the rest are pagan (who fascinating enough seem more open to logic than most atheists in this place) and christians. This place rarely changes and either do the people here. I can't wait to find a place with a healthy intellectual pulse. Not everyone in Idaho is lack luster, just most of them. And if you are someone like me who doesn't like football, beer or drugs of any kind and are not christian, it is a bleak place.
Yeah that would be great. That's one reason I joined this group. I have a list of resources that I'm planning to check out tomorrow, such as Who Wrote the New Testiment? The Making of the Christian Myth by Burton Mack, A History of God by Karen Armstrong, Some Mistakes of Moses by Robert Ingersoll, The Bible with Sources Revealed by Richard Friedman, The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine to name a few. I'm mostly interested in solidifying my argument against a theistic god, since I know that once I'm "out of the closet" I will have to answer to alot of Christians in my life, including my husband, so I better be damn sure what I'm talking about. I don't want to come across as some disillusioned, rebellious Christian who's really just angry at god or whatever. Do you know of anything that talks about the Kalam Cosmological argument? It basically says that whatever begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist, therefore, the universe has a cause. Christians infer that god must've been the first cause of the universe. I'm also interested in books dealing with morality without god. I hear all the time that morality is based on god, the moral lawgiver, and without god there can be no morals. I know that's bullcrap but I'd like to read something that strongly argues against this so I can strengthen my arguments about why I don't believe that. Thanks for reaching out to me, I appreciate it.
My parents are relatively liberal. It's the rest of the family that I have to worry about (grandparents). I'm still surprised to this day that I have meet so many accepting people in such a small town in the bible belt. Yet, I find myself rather alone at time. That has caused me to search for a community like this, and I'm ecstatic to have found one!
Thanks for the welcome! This area of NC tends to be very religious; my neighbors have no idea that I'm an atheist. However, I recently started a meetup group and just sent in an ad to the local paper to promote it. They'll know soon enough I guess. ha! Sometimes I think I'm nuts to go from not talking about atheism to throwing myself into the fire!