Seems we understand each other's delayed responses, being similar in that way. With that many long hours under your belt though, it's extra understandable. It sounds pretty rough for you lately.
If email is your preferred method of communication, I understand. You can take your time a little more than with this method. If you want to exchange email, I'd be cool with that. Just let me know. I wouldn't mind a friendly communication every now and then. No pressure or obligation though.
What you say about the meet ups makes a lot of sense and sounds just about right and easiest for me. I went to my first Meetup for a local anime group recently, and it was movie watching in the local library, which suit me perfectly. You had the movie to keep you distracted and entertained, with a little conversation on the side, which was nice. Even got friended by a couple of attendees on FB. So far so good there, and I plan on attending more of those in the future. As for other local groups I joined, none of their planned activities has really grabbed my attention! but I will keep looking for one that suits me.
I wouldn't expect someone to drive a long way just to see little ole me, lol. Likewise, I wouldn't go so far out of my way for someone I barely know. That's kinda crazy and a bit unreasonable. I haven't met any local atheists though at the Meetup I attended some time back, mostly because it was more of a lecture kinda meet, more than a social get together. I have yet to try one of those, but without a clear group activity, it's a little intimidating. Still, I may try to work up the courage to give one a go when I can. I'll never know if I never try, right?
Cool that your writing fiction, and novels at that. Do you mind my asking what kind? Don't have to share details or anything, just a basic overview will do. I dabbled writing some time ago in collaboration with a close friend, science fiction based, and a few songs and poems. I wouldn't call myself particularly talented or prolific in it though, but I did turn out a few decent tries, I think.
You sound a little unfocused, like me, lol. I find it hard to stick to one particular thing. I've tried different avenues of creative things, like drawing (mostly), writing, crafting, and wouldn't mind trying my hand at clay sculpting and sewing sometime. I always wanted to be kind of a jack of all trades in art/craft.
Boone is one of the most liberal (religiously and politically) areas of North Carolina which is one of the reasons I decided to go there ! And yes, we were targeted go make voting not as easy for us liberal college students. The town is actually conservative but pur university is very liberal and full of hippies haha.
I was actually hoping to find an atheist/freethinkers meet group in my area. I'm originally from Northern Minnesota. I have been in Wisconsin for almost 2 years now and I haven't been able to find much of anything. Thanks for the welcome!
I see what you mean about the social aspect of this site. I guess it would be fine for some online chatting here and there, but not so great for meet ups. I joined a local atheist group on meetup the same time I joined this group, and so far have only attended an educational lecture that was very interesting. I have yet to attend one of their more social meet ups. I tend to be a bit of a wallflower, so if I do get around to one of those, it's a fingers crossed and see how it goes type of deal for me.
My dad used to do some mechanical drafting if I recall correctly. You're right, it's not the same thing, but is interesting nonetheless, and entails some amount of skill as well, I wager.
Writing is very interesting. I used to have a friend who was very creative and good with her writing, and we used to collaborate her writing and my drawings. She inspired me to learn how to write a bit myself, though that is not my main interest/skill. If you don't mind my asking, is it fiction or nonfiction? I hear you on the inertia thing, and I understand a stressful job will definitely take some of the wind out of one's sails. I've been thinking of trying to sell some of my art and some crafts online for a while now, but still haven't mustered up the motivation and energy for it yet. Mostly I'm just trying to sort my life right now.
That's cool you're a musician, and that's an impressive list of instruments to have learned. I remember wanting to learn guitar and piano when I was younger, though I never did get around to it. And it is true when they say if you don't use it, you lose it. I also tend to get kinda rusty in drawing if I don't do it for a while, like say a year, and have to relearn a little when I pick it back up again. I'm sure if you really wanted to you could, though electronic composition could certainly be rewarding in it's own right as well.
I grew up in Miami and moved back to Utah in April of last year. (Strange to consider 2013 last year.) Lots of Catholics in Miami, due to the Cuban and Latin in general influence, and I attended an all-girl Catholic school for all 12 years of grade school. I say moved "back" because I was born in SLC, and we moved to Miami when I was 3. But none of my family is originally from Utah. Dad was there on business and got into skiing. I've always lived here at least part-time.
I also ended up viewing paganism and Wicca in particular as being more superstition I didn't need. But it was a good transition out of Christianity for me at the time.
Hi, and thanks for the friendly greeting. It makes it much easier to join a group when it's members extend a warm welcome to new members, especially when they're a little shy, like myself. It's nice to meet you.
I can relate to the voluntary solitary confinement thing. I've been kind of afraid of socializing with people for a little while, cooped up in my home. I want to change that, connect more with like-minded folks, and maybe make a new friend or two with similar interests.
My creative outlets manifest in visual art (mostly), sometimes in written form (poetry, song, story), and rare bits of craftiness. How about you? What creative outlets do you turn to?
Yeah! I don't know it's more of the "oh I'm too good for politics. Omg government man". The only political view anybody has is one and "obama is cool". A lot of people believe that for having one political view, everyone else's is invalid and they don't even want to debate about anything because that means they have to (GOD FORBID) think, or talk to people that may or may not have different views than them. The other day in American Political Process, the teacher says "so who even likes politics" and the entire class raised their hands and said "omg who wants to be involved in the corrupt system run by old white men omg no thanks " like a bunch of damn babies. Granted, I am not THE most politically intensive person ever, in comparison to my siblings who work in DC, but on some level shouldn't everyone be slightly interested in the policies that run our lives? And on that level I do try to read and understand political science, and philosophy as much as I can (although I completely realize that I have a LONG way to go, just as anybody should realize that they are not always accurate in their interpretation of the world, but thats fine! Because there are always people willing to debate that, hopefully.)
Also, I lived in Washington State last year, and there are people like that wherever you go. Luckily, I was able to find friends that shared common interests as me. Being in a new place though, it's hard to find people who actually share that sort of interest in life.
The wild-ass assertions from religious people are backed up usually by scripture. That's their evidence, and that's what I was referring to. Like Sam Harris said, if one person believes in something completely illogical without evidence, he or she is labelled 'crazy'. If a large number of people do, it's labelled 'religion.
It's ok. They say it's difficult to distinguish Asian people apart.What did you think the first time you saw me? Chinese? Yes,I'm sure your sister in law is a firm believer.She should have been a bit liberal by now because she has travel away from a conservative society.I have this curiousity since I was kid but didn't bother to challenge myself.My father was a member of autonomous christian congregation.He insist that we should all join the Chruch of Christ.I've been a very good follower.I imagine I would be in the same faith if I didn't left the country and educate myself.
I felt so lucky the first time I set my foot in the Holyland. I thought it's a good place to practice Christianity. I can visit an ancient chruch, see the footprints of Jesus Christ and all these things.I began learning Judaism and read some pages of the Old testament. I have read between the lines, compare things and see the conflicting situation in the Middle East.The thing that influence me a lot are the stuff I saw on National Geographic,History Channel, Ancient discoveries, Ancient Aliens and a bunch of Science fiction movies.Then I began reading and searching until one day I realize I'm quite convince that religion is for the weak and blind.Still my atheism is only visible to my platonic friends.
Another thing that I find challenging is socializing with my friends even going on a date. I feel like I do prefer to be with someone who is a free thinker and rational. I don't see a lot of ardent atheist in my Asian community. Some people would say it shouldn't matter at all. What do you think? Is a religion a deal breaker for you?
I'm an Asian migrant worker.Just move here several years ago and enjoying my freedom and creativity.Tel Aviv is vibrant and diverse.I fell much comfortable here though I wouldn't disclose to my relatives that i have been converted into atheism.I'm getting my news from BBC and France24.
How long have you been an atheist? What about your parents? Believers or nonbelievers?
It doesn't affect me much. My Jewish employer is not really religious and I know a lot of Jews that consider themselves as agnostic/atheist.You'll be surprise to see a number of secular Jews out here who doesn't really care about religion.I live in a ethnically diverse city. I feel like nobody cares if you are religious or not. But things would be different in some places like Jerusalem. The thing that worries me most is my Asian friends. They are all religious and I'm sure they will hate.I'd rather keep it to myself.
I don't mind driving to Raleigh, I hear the night scene is on point. I have an ENFJ personality type so I have a lot of energy and I want friends who don't mind having an explosive social life. Happy Halloween, BTW.
It's the northern part of Indiana, but I've lived in a small town most of my life and they were not overbearingly religious. There is a bit of discrimination, but most of it is towards age, gender, and sexuality. I haven't revealed my atheism to many, although I don't keep it a secret, so I cannot say if it is really a "big deal" where I live. In education, theism plays a big part. God is brought up often in class and evolution was not taught until it was forced to (AP Biology- this year because it is a core standard). That really bothers me.
Well, I lived in California for all of my 20s and a few 30s :) I grew up in Michigan, Kentucky and West Virginia. California was a move made because I was dating (and later married) a sailor. My mom isn't an atheist but her intention with the book was more of just exposure, she has great respect for Dr. Dawkins. She even said that it would scare me if I was not confident in my beliefs (which I obviously was not confident). We have a lot of protestants in the family but we were raised up catholic. I even taught CCD for a couple of years. I liked going to mass because I enjoyed the ritual, songs and comfort of the familiar. Listening to the priest was not very memorable, I loved the smell of the incense and the sense of community from being there and reciting the creed together. Once I actually realized that what was being taught by the church was very different than what I practiced in my true beliefs, I was very disappointed. The issue with priests and all the sexual abuse makes me absolutely livid. I can't fathom how it was all just covered up and hushed... In an effort to remain spiritual, I sought out Buddhism and it was very interesting. In fact, I still enjoy yoga. However, I was still seeking answers and wanted to find something more concrete and less faith-based. My mom has since become a very liberal christian. It would really be something if she gave that all up because it has been so ingrained into her core. She is a smart woman and can stand behind my love of science and reason so I don't feel any pressure from her.
For me the idea of no god was so freeing! As a matter of fact, it was a major catalyst in my decision to move back to be near family. There will be no grand reunification in the clouds after we all die, what we have now is all we will ever have and I need to make the most of my time here. The fact that I am responsible for my decisions and how I handle the hiccups of life was a bit overwhelming but also a wonderful chance to take charge of my life and what direction it takes. My last few years in So Cal were spent trying to work on a marriage that I had always thought of as "meant to be" for many reasons. Now I can just take that in as a learning experience and move on.
I am in complete agreement about the "silly stories" that are regurgitated over and over. It has become a new hobby of mine to listen to the audio bible because the stories are so messed up (the version with the dramatic reading is the only way to listen). They are entertaining at the very least and certainly have a big dollop of ridiculous mixed in. I remember saying to my mom that she was a smart person who works in the medical field and then I asked her how she could listen to a virgin birth story with a straight face.
The least appealing part of the small towns is that the people assume that everyone believes the same things. The looks I get just from being a vegetarian makes me cringe at ever being found out as a nonbeliever :0 Of course, small towns exist everywhere and even in So Cal the people are very similar in their attitudes toward anything viewed as different.
Yes, I grew up here but lived in So Cal for the last 16 years. Living in that area certainly helped nurture my already skeptical mind. Ironically, my mother gave me my first Dawkins book (The God Delusion) a few years ago and I was hooked! Breaking away was easy but it is not something I discuss with family. I already miss the access to lectures and meetings. Do you find a lot of fellow atheists in NC? Does anyone near you host get togethers/lectures?