Yeah! I don't know it's more of the "oh I'm too good for politics. Omg government man". The only political view anybody has is one and "obama is cool". A lot of people believe that for having one political view, everyone else's is invalid and they don't even want to debate about anything because that means they have to (GOD FORBID) think, or talk to people that may or may not have different views than them. The other day in American Political Process, the teacher says "so who even likes politics" and the entire class raised their hands and said "omg who wants to be involved in the corrupt system run by old white men omg no thanks " like a bunch of damn babies. Granted, I am not THE most politically intensive person ever, in comparison to my siblings who work in DC, but on some level shouldn't everyone be slightly interested in the policies that run our lives? And on that level I do try to read and understand political science, and philosophy as much as I can (although I completely realize that I have a LONG way to go, just as anybody should realize that they are not always accurate in their interpretation of the world, but thats fine! Because there are always people willing to debate that, hopefully.)
Also, I lived in Washington State last year, and there are people like that wherever you go. Luckily, I was able to find friends that shared common interests as me. Being in a new place though, it's hard to find people who actually share that sort of interest in life.
The wild-ass assertions from religious people are backed up usually by scripture. That's their evidence, and that's what I was referring to. Like Sam Harris said, if one person believes in something completely illogical without evidence, he or she is labelled 'crazy'. If a large number of people do, it's labelled 'religion.
It's ok. They say it's difficult to distinguish Asian people apart.What did you think the first time you saw me? Chinese? Yes,I'm sure your sister in law is a firm believer.She should have been a bit liberal by now because she has travel away from a conservative society.I have this curiousity since I was kid but didn't bother to challenge myself.My father was a member of autonomous christian congregation.He insist that we should all join the Chruch of Christ.I've been a very good follower.I imagine I would be in the same faith if I didn't left the country and educate myself.
I felt so lucky the first time I set my foot in the Holyland. I thought it's a good place to practice Christianity. I can visit an ancient chruch, see the footprints of Jesus Christ and all these things.I began learning Judaism and read some pages of the Old testament. I have read between the lines, compare things and see the conflicting situation in the Middle East.The thing that influence me a lot are the stuff I saw on National Geographic,History Channel, Ancient discoveries, Ancient Aliens and a bunch of Science fiction movies.Then I began reading and searching until one day I realize I'm quite convince that religion is for the weak and blind.Still my atheism is only visible to my platonic friends.
Another thing that I find challenging is socializing with my friends even going on a date. I feel like I do prefer to be with someone who is a free thinker and rational. I don't see a lot of ardent atheist in my Asian community. Some people would say it shouldn't matter at all. What do you think? Is a religion a deal breaker for you?
I'm an Asian migrant worker.Just move here several years ago and enjoying my freedom and creativity.Tel Aviv is vibrant and diverse.I fell much comfortable here though I wouldn't disclose to my relatives that i have been converted into atheism.I'm getting my news from BBC and France24.
How long have you been an atheist? What about your parents? Believers or nonbelievers?
It doesn't affect me much. My Jewish employer is not really religious and I know a lot of Jews that consider themselves as agnostic/atheist.You'll be surprise to see a number of secular Jews out here who doesn't really care about religion.I live in a ethnically diverse city. I feel like nobody cares if you are religious or not. But things would be different in some places like Jerusalem. The thing that worries me most is my Asian friends. They are all religious and I'm sure they will hate.I'd rather keep it to myself.
I don't mind driving to Raleigh, I hear the night scene is on point. I have an ENFJ personality type so I have a lot of energy and I want friends who don't mind having an explosive social life. Happy Halloween, BTW.
It's the northern part of Indiana, but I've lived in a small town most of my life and they were not overbearingly religious. There is a bit of discrimination, but most of it is towards age, gender, and sexuality. I haven't revealed my atheism to many, although I don't keep it a secret, so I cannot say if it is really a "big deal" where I live. In education, theism plays a big part. God is brought up often in class and evolution was not taught until it was forced to (AP Biology- this year because it is a core standard). That really bothers me.
Well, I lived in California for all of my 20s and a few 30s :) I grew up in Michigan, Kentucky and West Virginia. California was a move made because I was dating (and later married) a sailor. My mom isn't an atheist but her intention with the book was more of just exposure, she has great respect for Dr. Dawkins. She even said that it would scare me if I was not confident in my beliefs (which I obviously was not confident). We have a lot of protestants in the family but we were raised up catholic. I even taught CCD for a couple of years. I liked going to mass because I enjoyed the ritual, songs and comfort of the familiar. Listening to the priest was not very memorable, I loved the smell of the incense and the sense of community from being there and reciting the creed together. Once I actually realized that what was being taught by the church was very different than what I practiced in my true beliefs, I was very disappointed. The issue with priests and all the sexual abuse makes me absolutely livid. I can't fathom how it was all just covered up and hushed... In an effort to remain spiritual, I sought out Buddhism and it was very interesting. In fact, I still enjoy yoga. However, I was still seeking answers and wanted to find something more concrete and less faith-based. My mom has since become a very liberal christian. It would really be something if she gave that all up because it has been so ingrained into her core. She is a smart woman and can stand behind my love of science and reason so I don't feel any pressure from her.
For me the idea of no god was so freeing! As a matter of fact, it was a major catalyst in my decision to move back to be near family. There will be no grand reunification in the clouds after we all die, what we have now is all we will ever have and I need to make the most of my time here. The fact that I am responsible for my decisions and how I handle the hiccups of life was a bit overwhelming but also a wonderful chance to take charge of my life and what direction it takes. My last few years in So Cal were spent trying to work on a marriage that I had always thought of as "meant to be" for many reasons. Now I can just take that in as a learning experience and move on.
I am in complete agreement about the "silly stories" that are regurgitated over and over. It has become a new hobby of mine to listen to the audio bible because the stories are so messed up (the version with the dramatic reading is the only way to listen). They are entertaining at the very least and certainly have a big dollop of ridiculous mixed in. I remember saying to my mom that she was a smart person who works in the medical field and then I asked her how she could listen to a virgin birth story with a straight face.
The least appealing part of the small towns is that the people assume that everyone believes the same things. The looks I get just from being a vegetarian makes me cringe at ever being found out as a nonbeliever :0 Of course, small towns exist everywhere and even in So Cal the people are very similar in their attitudes toward anything viewed as different.
Yes, I grew up here but lived in So Cal for the last 16 years. Living in that area certainly helped nurture my already skeptical mind. Ironically, my mother gave me my first Dawkins book (The God Delusion) a few years ago and I was hooked! Breaking away was easy but it is not something I discuss with family. I already miss the access to lectures and meetings. Do you find a lot of fellow atheists in NC? Does anyone near you host get togethers/lectures?
Thanks for all the information! I would probably start with FAAST. Working in evolutionary biology myself, I am in a sort of perpetual skeptics society even in my daily life, and it's fabulously awesome. Gotta count my "blessings." But I could definitely use the chance to meet people with similar beliefs who are in other fields and walks of life. I hope the protest goes well!
Hi there! I live in the Triangle and am very much an atheist. I haven't been active in any local groups but now that I've graduated, I have a bit more free time and would love to get involved. What are FAAST & TAM like? (What does TAM stand for...?) How many people show up to events? What do y'all do/talk about at events? I am interested in "atheist activism", i.e. showing the world that atheists can be the nicest people around.
I strongly suggest you follow @atheistworld and @rooney4030 for discussions on religion from an atheist point of view, they are pro-atheist pages that dont threaten against religion but teach about positive atheism and the use of evidence
Hey. Thanks for the welcome. The people in my town and my own family can be extremely hostile and almost like a pack of wild dogs jumping on a rabbit when it comes to their religion. I've challenged some of the things they have said, but I've never "outted" myself. It's so strange, everyone just assumes that everyone in this town in a christian. Because of this, they say the most outrageous things.
Hi! Thanks for the welcome. Being an ex-Apo is a lot of stinging regret mixed with bitter disappointment with myself. But that's a lot better than actually BEING Pentecostal. Then you're stuck with self-righteousness with a side of God staring over your shoulder waiting to set you on fire for something you're not aware is a sin yet.
I take it from your comments that my offer to "walk you through" is not appreciated? Do you think you already know everything I would say? Or that I'm so obviously wrong and it would be so easy to dismiss my comments that the effort would bore you?
That's cool - not sure you're going to like me much.
I'm sorry, in the light of what Huxley explained about his philosophy your link is absurd. If you like I will walk you through the various quotes, but not tonight it's late. If you don't think that Atheism (my comments we not intended to reflect all atheist) doesn't speak in terms of certainties, on subjects like, life after death, I think we should try a poll and see what others think.
Regarding Einstein, I've been at this for 30+ years, I don't think you have anything I haven't seen - I know of quotes where Einstein says he is Agnostic, where he is NOT Atheist, where he mocks Atheist but I would like to see where he supports Atheist.
Your statement "If someone asks you if you believe in a god, and you can't say, "Yes," then you're an atheist." Is why Einstein said he believed in the God of Spinoza, Again if you want me to walk you through that, I'm willing. That shit gets deep!