I feel you. Unfortunately, although I am a nice, hard-working,respectable etc. young woman, all that would go out the door if I proclaimed that Jesus is no deity. I'd be cast aside, stoned, and shameful. I respect his philosophy, but as a person only.
I have not clearly come out either, not because I am not confident in my non-belief, but because I don't need the extra drama right now.There is a time for everything. I just remain quiet and even play devil's advocate a lot. But they are going to assume forever that I either have Jesus, or Jesus is waiting on me to come to him either way.
As far as the "bougie" is concerned, that connects with the idea that we have somehow neglected and betrayed out roots. However, that couldn't be farther from the truth. I,for instance studied Af-Am lit at the graduate level...More importantly, even if I'd studied European lit, one can't be deemed a race traitor for knowing, seeking, and choosing to believe what s/he wants. You know?
I was excited as well to see another black women. I was surprised to see any black people at all. The people I am tied to are rather devoted to their beliefs (never having doubted them). So I now have hope. I currently know no black women freethinkers, atheists, nontheists, etc! It's so important to put yourself out there. When times of trouble come, it's Very important to have people who understand. Although they mean well, not even my own family can be of support because they are clueless.
This is my all time favorite response to my atheism on facebook / youtube. I left all of my cousin's theist spelling errors intact.
"Joseph, This is Ramez responding to you off of Randa's email. I would have responded to you myself off of my account, but I removed you from my Facebook about a month ago after your first attempt a religious blastphomy. You just don't get it, do you. When will you put your Unibomber Maniphesto out there? I am sure most wont get this reply since they have likely removed you from your their friends as well. You continue to offend those who came to your defense when you were in your time of need a few months ago when your wife left you. You made us make you feel like the victim. Maybe you were just not her cup of tea.
Don't look for this support the next time around since you have offended everyone in your family of both religions. When is your Moses Video coming out? We can't wait to see it. I am sure it will be tastefully done and equally offensive."
Yeah the people who un-friended me for my atheism were actually relatives of mine. I've been exiled by many of them for "blasphemy". I started today by moving all my pictures from FB to AN. This all started when I made a series of atheist youtube videos and one of my relatives found them on youtube. He called me and asked me to censor myself because he found the videos offensive, and when I refused managed to convince a good number of my relatives to excommunicate me. I responded with a "fuck you and your religion" email to all of them. lol
Hey Carolyn I think I might replace my facebook with AN. After I became an outspoken atheist I lost many of my friends on facebook, and soon I think I will have more friends on AN. Here I seem to be free to speak about my thoughts and openly mock religion when I find something funny about it. I really feel at home among my fellow atheist as we all draw support from each other.
Hi Carolyn. Thanks for the add. Yes! if religious zealots can stick together based on absurd ideas , for sure we freethinkers can do so in the name of logic, realism, and humanism...
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I feel you. Unfortunately, although I am a nice, hard-working,respectable etc. young woman, all that would go out the door if I proclaimed that Jesus is no deity. I'd be cast aside, stoned, and shameful. I respect his philosophy, but as a person only.
I have not clearly come out either, not because I am not confident in my non-belief, but because I don't need the extra drama right now.There is a time for everything. I just remain quiet and even play devil's advocate a lot. But they are going to assume forever that I either have Jesus, or Jesus is waiting on me to come to him either way.
As far as the "bougie" is concerned, that connects with the idea that we have somehow neglected and betrayed out roots. However, that couldn't be farther from the truth. I,for instance studied Af-Am lit at the graduate level...More importantly, even if I'd studied European lit, one can't be deemed a race traitor for knowing, seeking, and choosing to believe what s/he wants. You know?
We're so awesome and unique! :)
I was excited as well to see another black women. I was surprised to see any black people at all. The people I am tied to are rather devoted to their beliefs (never having doubted them). So I now have hope. I currently know no black women freethinkers, atheists, nontheists, etc! It's so important to put yourself out there. When times of trouble come, it's Very important to have people who understand. Although they mean well, not even my own family can be of support because they are clueless.
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This is my all time favorite response to my atheism on facebook / youtube. I left all of my cousin's theist spelling errors intact.
"Joseph,
This is Ramez responding to you off of Randa's email. I would have responded to you myself off of my account, but I removed you from my Facebook about a month ago after your first attempt a religious blastphomy.
You just don't get it, do you. When will you put your Unibomber Maniphesto out there? I am sure most wont get this reply since they have likely removed you from your their friends as well. You continue to offend those who came to your defense when you were in your time of need a few months ago when your wife left you. You made us make you feel like the victim. Maybe you were just not her cup of tea.
Don't look for this support the next time around since you have offended everyone in your family of both religions. When is your Moses Video coming out? We can't wait to see it. I am sure it will be tastefully done and equally offensive."
Hey thanks a lot. Trying to be free from the conditioning of religion especially Jamaica is quite a challenge. I could write a book.
It's quite refreshing discovering this site.
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Welcome to this wonderful world of Internet atheism, free of belief in superstitions and that fictional god of the masses.
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