Have met Professor Shortell at Brooklyn College; he is in the Department of Sociology, I believe? I just read an article by him, and thought, perhaps, you were aware of his work and could comment on it from point of view.
Thank you, Carolyn! You're gorgeous! I wish I had locs like that, but I have A.D.D. when it comes to hairstyles. Too bad I can't just wake up one day and magically have locs down my back. LOL! Stay in touch...
It started early in the morning. Zac posted a blog essentially about his plane being struck by lightning and how he'd clutched his copy of The God Delusion for comfort and offered up a prayer to Richard Dawkins.
Obviously sarcastic, right?
Well this brought out one Theist - Erika who messaged Zac direct to his page saying how she was mightily offended that he would compare a man Dawkins to her god, and then we were joined in the fray by Eric Ziegler (apparently I learnt later a friend of Zac's whose recently been 'turned to the dark side of Fundie Catholicism.
So I make a quick comment somethgin about how Christians are so credullous they though Zac was serious and this initiates an unholy row - however where they were it was 1.30am where I was it was 7am and I was getting ready to leave the house so with much terse exchanges already said (involve amongst other things evolution, creationism, the devil and Hell) I said we'd reconvene that evening.
So I get back from college post a few posts dismantling (especially Eric's) posts and he appers offering up a 'watchmaker analogy' - and I school him on that as well.
And then thigns turn Nasty. Already Erics said Atheists talk shit and been generally rude and unpleasent but now were back to insults threats of Hell (you will burn unbelievers!!!) , I don't play nice either now I've had enough of this - and that's when it comes: the 'if I ever see you I'll beat you up' (I'm paraphrasing) but he was livid.
So there you go. Push a theists buttons and the mask slips - threats of torture and violence is all they have.
I'm 5' 9' too! :-) I'd say it was his nose to my chin, not a great difference but just noticeable 'cos he's such a giant to me, it was just a startling moment to realise I was the taller between us.
The Skeptic Hour is a radio show dedicated to helping people begin to think critically about everything. From birth we are filled with the ideas of our households and surrounding communities. Most of us never make it to the point questioning, because we are taught not to; but a few of us at some point in our lives have either a crisis of faith or something dramatic that happens in our lives that shakes the very foundation our unquestionable ideas rest on, and we suddenly start to see cracks and gaps in our way of thinking. We look through those cracks and begin to see things that were once hidden. Fear causes us to deny what we are learning, but as we continue to peak through the cracks, the fear slowly leaves, and before we know it, we've become freethinkers.
It is both in your "About me" and a comment you made in one of the forums. Of course the forum comment led me to the "About me". FB can be superficial but it has become a network for information. I'm not out of the "closet" yet so my religion is listed as irreligous on FB. LOL
Yes, it is more difficult when dealing with these folks who are set in their ways. However, time and experience prepare us for the worst. And we already know the worst outcomes, so we should be fine when the right time presents itself!
I see.Everyone needs guidance. I guess I'd much rather seek guidance from someone who doesn't require a financial offering, and guidance that does not require being subject to judgment. lol
I guess professing my beliefs to them would precipitate anger in both, and maybe also sadness in the other --she considers me her best friend. I'm not sure though. But I am tired of people assuming when I never even said I was a christian or of any other religion in the first place. I guess silence is just like agreeing.
I've had experiences with nice christians going bad when I mentioned things like god didn't write anything in the bible, that Jesus didn't speak Middle English, or simply not to believe everything someone tells you--like my dear grandmother who considered my knowledge portentous, and threatened that the devil had much in store for me for thinking such things.
So I think I know that they'd try to lay hands on me ( in other words, try to change me to make me what they want me to be), or leave me alone until I find Jesus again ( in other words, get angry and consider me a lost infidel).
It's good you have friends that understand. I don't usually talk about religion with friends. My two closest friends are Christians, and I think one knows of my doubts. One does not. The one that knows isn't much of a friend anymore; I assume she sees me differently, and since I've begun to see things in a more logical sense, I see and her beliefs differently as well.In addition, I can't really remain close friends with someone who will judge me based on my beliefs.
So, that's one reason I'm here. Was it easy or difficult to talk to your closest friends about your atheism? Are they religious?