I too think that keeping the intellectual discussions out there as a shield is important. Although it does feel like beating one's head against a wall at times. How do you even begin with someone who apparently can't even comprehend the most basic principles of logic? I recently had a favorite "You can't prove that God doesn't exist" thrown at me. My response: "Neither can I prove that the Easter Bunny doesn't exist. But I'm not worshiping the Easter Bunny on that basis either."
Thanks for the welcome :-) I'll be exploring this kindred community slowly (working for a living is ugly), but eagerly. It will be a challenge for me to take a positive approach in postings. It's been several years since I took active part in this sort of thing (pre-blog technology), and that was more (locally) political than teleological. I found it difficult to curb my sarcastic humor, and became known by some of the more sensitive participants from 'the other side' as someone they wouldn't want to hang out with. I learned to live with that then , and I'm learning to control my caustic wit now, but I'm only at step 2 of the 12...
Terry,
Thanks for the welcome. When I first joined, I looked at some of the posts and was afraid this was a scam, but I can see now that it is not, it just has the usual smattering of kids and kooks, and is grounded in rational thinking such as your own.
I heard someone say on television the other day "Is there s god? I just don't know." I wonder how they would answer to "Do you believe in Santa Claus? The Tooth Fairy? etc." I should think they would deny those beliefs but why not the other? The proofs for the existence of all are equally absent.
Gary Clark
Thanks very much for the welcome! It's actually maybe not so coincidental timing that you happen to bring up the "proud to be an atheist" idea as that is one of my goals in the new chapter of the Atheists of Florida that we are forming in my area . I am tired of being scorned and ridiculed and for it to be seen as okay to do so. We are one of the last remaining groups that it is socially acceptable to belittle and insult.
Thank you for welcoming me here. I look forward to joining many discussions.
It is very nice to find a place such as this one to discuss our non-beliefs. Where I live I am surrounded by people of faith and often feel like an outcast. Hopefully that will eventually change.
Thanks for your Welcome Terence. I'm 62 next week! I don't mind if people need to have imaginary friends. What worries me in the Abrahamic Tradition (Jewish, Christian & Islamic) is all the stuff that is allowed to lurk in the pages of their HolEy Books. 'Of course we don't stone disobedient children bla bla bla. BUT if enough nuts get control, because it is in the Bible etc. it can be reinstated at any time by the religious Bigots who are taking over the churches.
Thank you for the welcome. However, I must take issue with your assertion that all believers are silly or superstitious. I don't think that that is true. I think that there are honest people who have examined all the evidence for and against God's existence and have just come to a different conclusion then me. I am deeply uncomfortable with the idea of "atheist superiority" as if I have some corner on the truth that others lack.
As an ex-fundy that's way to close to fundythink for me to be comfortable.
Thank you for the welcome! I plan on exploring the different groups and joining in discussions. I think it will be interesting to be part of a site where non-theists talk amongst themselves. I've been at sites where non-believers and believers discuss, but never just one for atheists.
Thank you for the welcoming comment. I look forward to meeting new people with like-minded values. I was born and raised atheist, and I didn't even 'know' religion until just recently. I ran across many other forums that always had some discussion on it...never felt included, so I am looking for a 'safe haven' from such nonsense!
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There is a video of the Pope's 'exorcism' caught on film. The man isn't demon possessed, there are likely no 'real' demons. He's just delusional and doesn't want to accept personal responsiblity for his own behavior for his own dysfunctional life.
There is an ad that reads ' Do you support 'traditional' marriage? Vote Now"! .
No, I don't support 'traditional' marriage because there is no such thing. I support heterosexual and same-sex couples marry each other legally , yes. 'Traditional' marriage promoters largely do not believe that heterosexual women are co-equal to their husbands. Their only purpose in 'traditional' marriage is to sexually satisfy their husbands if they can and raise children and do all…
i've got no problem with everyone saying "merry christmas" on christmas day. however, they've turned it into an entire holiday season where it lasts a month or more. in those situations it should be perfectly acceptable to say "happy holidays" or call it a…
I posted the bulk of this on another thread, but wanted to add some context separately.
I finally confronted my faith and embraced the fact of my atheism late last August, 2012. Days after I revealed my "epiphany" to a few friends who knew me from another message board, my sister died from Lou Gehrig's Disease (which pissed her off because she hated catching a disease from someone she never f---ed).
THAT was my sister, understand? She was a beautiful, life-loving, potty-mouthed…
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I've had a brief look at the Origins group and there seem to be some quite interesting discussions there so I'll be joining.
Thanks again.
I too think that keeping the intellectual discussions out there as a shield is important. Although it does feel like beating one's head against a wall at times. How do you even begin with someone who apparently can't even comprehend the most basic principles of logic? I recently had a favorite "You can't prove that God doesn't exist" thrown at me. My response: "Neither can I prove that the Easter Bunny doesn't exist. But I'm not worshiping the Easter Bunny on that basis either."
--bill grava
Thanks for the welcome. When I first joined, I looked at some of the posts and was afraid this was a scam, but I can see now that it is not, it just has the usual smattering of kids and kooks, and is grounded in rational thinking such as your own.
I heard someone say on television the other day "Is there s god? I just don't know." I wonder how they would answer to "Do you believe in Santa Claus? The Tooth Fairy? etc." I should think they would deny those beliefs but why not the other? The proofs for the existence of all are equally absent.
Gary Clark
It is very nice to find a place such as this one to discuss our non-beliefs. Where I live I am surrounded by people of faith and often feel like an outcast. Hopefully that will eventually change.
Thank you,
Jeremy
As an ex-fundy that's way to close to fundythink for me to be comfortable.
The problem is that religionists don't keep it to themselves. The United States military is full of it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/soldiers-in-afghanistan-g_n_195674.html
http://www.armytimes.com/community/opinion/airforce_backtalk_religion_122208/
http://www.maaf.info/
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There is a video of the Pope's 'exorcism' caught on film. The man isn't demon possessed, there are likely no 'real' demons. He's just delusional and doesn't want to accept personal responsiblity for his own behavior for his own dysfunctional life.
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I posted the bulk of this on another thread, but wanted to add some context separately.
I finally confronted my faith and embraced the fact of my atheism late last August, 2012. Days after I revealed my "epiphany" to a few friends who knew me from another message board, my sister died from Lou Gehrig's Disease (which pissed her off because she hated catching a disease from someone she never f---ed).
THAT was my sister, understand? She was a beautiful, life-loving, potty-mouthed…
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