I agree with you: once their arguments get dismantled (you dismantle them soooooo well btw!!), all they have left are threats of "hell" and violence. Not only are christians credulous, they are extremely sensitive and frequently forget that folks can say/ post/ write about whatever they want! This to me stems from their seemingly universal belief that everyone believes in the Christian “god”, or at the very least some other type of “god”; both beliefs are in my opinion extremely arrogant. And they are sooo emotionally attached to their beliefs- to the point where they would fight or disown someone else for not believing or for even questioning their beliefs?! This behavior is just ludicrous.
Re: being a pest about my attendance or the lack thereof at the conference lol:
I’d totally wear my heels- are you kidding?! LOL! I love my shoes! I joke around and compare myself to a drag queen in them lol. The reason why I probably will not go is money- that funds for that trip could go to my new apartment and new furniture! I know, you think I should go in spite of that, but I’ve recently had to move back home (in late August 2010) and I’ve GOT TO GET OUT!!!!! I desperately need my own space again!
Wow- are you serious?! A FB debate?! Did I miss something today?!? WTF??? Need more details!!
P.S.: I just read your pevious regarding (suuuper late sorry!!). How tall is Dawkins? How tall are you? I'm a tall one, 5'10 in my flats lol. I do wanna go to the conference in Iowa but I'll be apartment hunting/ moving around that time, and apt hunting in NYC is awful! And the rents are truly exorbitant. I hope the Manchester conference is good, keep me posted!
Wow- you met Christopher Hitchens?!?! Incredible!! He might be at the Iowa atheist gathering in May (I believe), which I'd like to attend, but I can't make it :-(
It's a good thing there is no god, because he/she would definitely be fucking with you.
I was wondering why you didn't back up, but thought it would be a painfully obvious thing to point out...Anyway, sorry for judging you, and that made the horror story that much more horrible. I have the crucial stuff backup on two computers and online (through Dropbox).
Oh, I love computers so much, but I know the frustration. I had a friend who was a huge twit about his Mac computer, and I crashed it within 10 minutes. Great posters - truth is funny.
Good luck with the university lab placement! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Every little bit helps. And chemistry?? You're a better person than I.....math, chemistry, anything number related is not by forte. I wish I had the brain for it :/ I hope I've found my calling as a librarian.....
Doh! I always proof read before I hit the 'add comment' button! I meant either reading for or ready for my last semester - both applied! Every other semester seemed to take f.o.r.e.v.e.r. but this time it seems like it will fly by. Yeah, I'm a bit nervous about finding something, but I should be able to find a position in either an academic or public library. I'm hoping for an academic position, after years of working towards being a youth services librarian.......time will tell :)
You're looking for work, too?? I wish you lots of good luck and glad to be friends on Facebook now! Love your pictures......you're a cutie :)
Mostly I read TGD because I figured I should have some logical basis for my atheism. I tend to prefer finding out what other people think and then deciding if it seems logical and well-supported, rather than starting from scratch myself unless necessary. It's parasitic, I know, but it's worked for me so far. Not re-inventing the wheel and all that. I first came to atheism because after I learned about Zeus, and Thor, and Ra, etc., believing in any god just seemed ludicrous. So, reading made me an atheist, more so than my own logic. I figure reading can help me better understand and support my position.
I've been meaning to read more on the subject, just haven't yet. Some of the concepts in TGD were completely foreign to me. I especially loved the part about irreducible complexity, I'd never heard that argument...and then I thought...vampires? Would they count? Which led to much amusement trying to determine the evolutionary arc of vampires.
Hi Richard, thanks for friending me. I see you've done quite a bit of reading on atheism. I've only read The God Delusion by Dawkins so far, but it introduced me to so many concepts I didn't even know existed. The local bookstores only have a very scarce selection of atheism titles, which is yet another reason I am so happy to live in a time when we have internet.
On BF Skinner, as soon as I read about him, my pseudoscience detection hairs began to tingle with skepticism but the following excerpt reveals my thoughts exactly: Among Chomsky's criticisms were that Skinner's laboratory work could not be extended to humans, that when it was extended to humans it represented 'scientistic' behavior attempting to emulate science but which was not scientific, that Skinner was not a scientistbecause he rejected the hypothetico-deductive model of theory testing, that Skinner had no science of behavior, and that Skinner's works were highly conducive to justifying or advancing totalitarianism.
I was and remain an atheist by force of intellect and reason alone
Just a little question... Homo sapiens being the only religious animal says to me we are atheists by nature. So how can you say what you say about atheism? Isn't our intellect and the constant search for reasons exactly what has brought about religion in the first place?
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Ha- yea, it's way more than a train ride, LOL :-)
I hope so!!! I'll keep an eye out for him!
Brooklyn is miiiiiiles away fm Iowa; BK is on he coast and Iowa is in the midwest.
OMFG!!!!! *all pun intended*
I agree with you: once their arguments get dismantled (you dismantle them soooooo well btw!!), all they have left are threats of "hell" and violence. Not only are christians credulous, they are extremely sensitive and frequently forget that folks can say/ post/ write about whatever they want! This to me stems from their seemingly universal belief that everyone believes in the Christian “god”, or at the very least some other type of “god”; both beliefs are in my opinion extremely arrogant. And they are sooo emotionally attached to their beliefs- to the point where they would fight or disown someone else for not believing or for even questioning their beliefs?! This behavior is just ludicrous.
Re: being a pest about my attendance or the lack thereof at the conference lol:
I’d totally wear my heels- are you kidding?! LOL! I love my shoes! I joke around and compare myself to a drag queen in them lol. The reason why I probably will not go is money- that funds for that trip could go to my new apartment and new furniture! I know, you think I should go in spite of that, but I’ve recently had to move back home (in late August 2010) and I’ve GOT TO GET OUT!!!!! I desperately need my own space again!
P.S.: I just read your pevious regarding (suuuper late sorry!!). How tall is Dawkins? How tall are you? I'm a tall one, 5'10 in my flats lol. I do wanna go to the conference in Iowa but I'll be apartment hunting/ moving around that time, and apt hunting in NYC is awful! And the rents are truly exorbitant. I hope the Manchester conference is good, keep me posted!
Ha, sure found ya!!
Wow- you met Christopher Hitchens?!?! Incredible!! He might be at the Iowa atheist gathering in May (I believe), which I'd like to attend, but I can't make it :-(
I was wondering why you didn't back up, but thought it would be a painfully obvious thing to point out...Anyway, sorry for judging you, and that made the horror story that much more horrible. I have the crucial stuff backup on two computers and online (through Dropbox).
......off to check out your photos on Flickr! :)
You're looking for work, too?? I wish you lots of good luck and glad to be friends on Facebook now! Love your pictures......you're a cutie :)
Still learning about rational thinking and enjoying the journey. How are you doing?? :)
I hope you had a Happy Hogswatch, as well.
Mostly I read TGD because I figured I should have some logical basis for my atheism. I tend to prefer finding out what other people think and then deciding if it seems logical and well-supported, rather than starting from scratch myself unless necessary. It's parasitic, I know, but it's worked for me so far. Not re-inventing the wheel and all that. I first came to atheism because after I learned about Zeus, and Thor, and Ra, etc., believing in any god just seemed ludicrous. So, reading made me an atheist, more so than my own logic. I figure reading can help me better understand and support my position.
I've been meaning to read more on the subject, just haven't yet. Some of the concepts in TGD were completely foreign to me. I especially loved the part about irreducible complexity, I'd never heard that argument...and then I thought...vampires? Would they count? Which led to much amusement trying to determine the evolutionary arc of vampires.
Hi Richard, thanks for friending me. I see you've done quite a bit of reading on atheism. I've only read The God Delusion by Dawkins so far, but it introduced me to so many concepts I didn't even know existed. The local bookstores only have a very scarce selection of atheism titles, which is yet another reason I am so happy to live in a time when we have internet.
Just a little question... Homo sapiens being the only religious animal says to me we are atheists by nature. So how can you say what you say about atheism? Isn't our intellect and the constant search for reasons exactly what has brought about religion in the first place?
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