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So, just what good is there in praying ? The short answer is absolutely nothing. If you are a Jew, Christian, or Muslim, then you believe in Yahweh alone, or Yahweh and his son Jesus who is said to be of one substance with him. If you're Muslim, then you believe in Allah and his prophet. But in all three cases God is believed to be Omnipotent (All powerful), Omniscient (all knowing), and Omnibenevolent (all loving and merciful).
Now if God is omniscient then he already knows infallibly everything that is ever going to happen based solely upon his every decision which he also already infallibly knows. So what good does it do to pray that your medical tests bring back good results ? What good does it do to pray that you get that new home you've so been wanting ?
At best it's even worse than hit or miss. It's even worse than a blind man trying to hit a bullseye at a thousand yards with a low powered rifle with the gun sights way off center, and this only if the Jewish, Christian, or Muslim God even exists to begin with !
If God infallibly knows the future then nothing will turn out any different than God has already infallibly seen it to occur. Does God suddenly change an eternal plan just to make your comparatively inconsequential wish a reality ? If, in fact, God does infallibly see the future, then he is locked in, he doesn't have the power to change his mind, and so is not free in a true sense, both facts in themselves contradicting God's trait of omnipotence (power without limits).
"Can God omniscient who knows the future find the omnipotence to change his future mind" ?

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Comment by k.h. ky on February 8, 2014 at 12:43am
Wonderful post Anthony. And, I've got to agree with Sentient again. All these gods seem to be on massive ego trips. With all the worship they demand and punishment they threaten. What the f is that about?
Comment by Joan Denoo on February 7, 2014 at 10:58pm

Grinning Cat, you remind me of the old saying: 

"Thought without action is a daydream, action without thought is a nightmare." 

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 7, 2014 at 10:01pm

Yes, Tony, well said! A god clearly can't have both omniscience and omnipotence.

... it has more to do with the one praying than with any god/s.

I also remember a Jewish teaching that God doesn't need prayer; the person praying needs it to know themselves better.

But thought without action isn't very useful.

A friend observed that an (actual) effect of prayer (or "magickal" rituals, or whatever) might be to prime a person to look for good aspects of a situation, to be more observant of opportunities, and to prepare to actually do something to make things better.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 7, 2014 at 9:36pm

You may be correct Daniel, however, I think it has more to do with the one praying than with any god/s. Denial of death is one motivation, another is dependency on others to meet ones needs instead of getting up off the soft chair and doing what needs to be done. Not very charitable of me, I know, but prayers are just an attempt to avoid thinking and effort. 

Comment by Sentient Biped on February 7, 2014 at 9:19pm

I think the main purpose of prayer is to massage the god's ego.  He really gets off on sycophants. 

Comment by John Aultman on February 7, 2014 at 9:11pm

I couldn't agree more.  Excellent

Comment by Michael Penn on February 7, 2014 at 7:42am

LOL  Very well said, Tony, and you've got me laughing my butt off here. I think you have found the reason that prayer does not work!

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