The first thing that struck me about this photo is that it is a SDA church sign, the flavor of delusion which my family suffers from. But the second thing, the message, is more interesting.


"The Most Powerful Position is On Your Knees"


This statement is so patently illogical that one wonders how they could be so bold as to put it on a sign. It seems to be in the same sentiment as the Islam belief of complete submission but I don't think even a Muslim would go so far as to say that it grants you power. Of course a theist can argue anything, however illogical.


Jesus Christ reportedly claimed that faith even as small as a mustard seed was sufficient to move mountains. He said nothing about needing to be on your knees but that is beside the point. The statement above alludes to this claim of Jesus Christ and yet I can't believe there are very many Christians, even among the most devout, which earnestly believe it to be true. The power of prayer is nowhere to be found.


The appropriate position for a member of our organization is on your knees, with your wallet extended. That is what the sign should say. Seventh-Day Adventists are typically quite committed to paying tithe weekly. Last time I attended church with my family I was struck, and disgusted, by how many other non-tithe "offerings" they were able to squeeze from the congregation with things like a children's story at the base of the pulpit which involved having the children move throughout the pews collecting money from adults to take up as an offering before the story was told. No doubt this little ceremony gets the children in practice of giving away their money in addition to bleeding the congregation for a few extra dollars. You really have to hand it to them.


Credit: Photo taken from http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/12/25/its-true-2/ and used without permission. The photo is presumed to be free of copyright.

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Comment by Tom Thompson on February 25, 2010 at 11:33am
That is an odd story richard. I don't really understand the S&M relationship.
Comment by richard lee on February 25, 2010 at 10:43am
At one point in time in my life I dated a sadist. My being a masochist, I asked her to beat me. She said, no. It ended our relationship.
Comment by Tom Thompson on February 11, 2010 at 2:44pm
@Glen, excellent comments.

Dating a Dom sounds about as fun as going to church with my family. It makes you think and it gives you opportunity to poke fun at all the subs but I have only so much patience for the games.
Comment by Fr33think3r on February 9, 2010 at 8:18am
They must subscribe to a "sign of the week" email program. I saw two signs with this same message last week.
Comment by Tom Thompson on February 8, 2010 at 11:52am
@Ryan, I get your first point that people are taught to value God and the afterlife more than they value their life or possessions. I'm not sure I follow your second point though.

I have read about comparisons between traditional brain-washing techniques and religious indoctrination and some of the common elements, from memory, are the following.

1) Dismantling the individual's sense of identity
2) Making them hate and loathe their self and feel guilty
3) Replacing their pride and identity with a devotion to some other ideology

Regarding making money and giving it to the church, it is interesting how the Church has to spin the act. On the one hand Jesus Christ suggested that poverty and charity were virtues and that wealth is to be avoided. On the other hand, the church would go bankrupt if this idea were practiced. I have questioned my own family members about this and, unsurprisingly, they reject the notion that Jesus Christ really intended for people to be poor.
Comment by ryan cameron on February 8, 2010 at 11:15am
So to relate that to what you are saying, they need to in the same way establish that being "proud" is something we all want (even though most people are not "high on themselves" to any great degree naturally), and pride gets you "praise" which can lead to more "gold" I guess. Then giving all that junk you didnt really care about in the first place but now hold as precious thanks to the church...to god means you get even more gold, which you can trade for more "godliness" ? again...huge mind-fuck. Not sure how else to put it.
Comment by ryan cameron on February 8, 2010 at 11:03am
I was thinking the other day of the song "Lord, you are, more precious than silver..." etc. and as you state it ironically positions power and wealth as desirable things, so you have to get that first IE the lesson that materialism is a huge temptation. This idea is kind of foreign to most children, but churches bang it into their heads...gold, diamonds, "golden streets" in heaven etc. to ensure they have a healthy value of material goods, THEN they hit them with "but God is even more precious than these things that you probably didnt value much in the first place but we taught you were to be held in the highest esteem".. That way , you have both the will to go out and earn/get as much "gold" as you possibly can, followed by bringing it to church to trade for "god", which is supposedly more valuable. Its quite the mind-fuck.

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