Ken 'The Lie' Ham has written again, displaying the soft underbelly of his ignorance when it comes to atheists or atheism. Why does this man such an easy target  of himself?

I have included salient extracts from his post.

Actually, I would suggest that atheist churches have been operating across the Western nations for a long time. By and large in the USA, public schools and secular universities have really become churches of humanism with many of the teachers and professors being the high priests of this church. In the UK, government-funded schools are not any better. In both nations, schools teach naturalism as fact, using the belief in evolution and millions of years as a supposed “scientific” justification for their atheistic (naturalistic) anti-God religion that they have imposed on generations of students. They legislate to protect their anti-God religion and allow no questions asked or any critical evaluation. It is sheer dogma!

 

Actually, the origin of the word church was an assembly of citizens. It’s a word (like, for example, Easter) that has been hi-jacked by Christians, and is more commonly regarded nowadays as an assembly of Christians. It’s entirely possible that ‘atheist church’ is meant ironically, perhaps even sarcastically, but a humour by-pass victim like Ken Ham just doesn’t get it.

 

Schools are places where children go to learn about basic things like maths, reading and writing as well as other interesting things such as history, geography and science. Children should not go to school to be indoctrinated into a particular religion, especially when schools are funded by people who are not believers in that particular religion. Similarly, they should be sent to school to be taught that one particular political party is the one they should vote for, or that they should support one particular football team, or drive one particular brand of car. As well as learning facts, children go to school to learn how to critically analyse information. Ken, of course, disagrees with this ideal. He feels that children should be taught that an invisible phantom power created everything in the universe, and that if they do not believe in this invisible phantom power, their spirit will be roasted for ever and ever. They should be made to read a book that explains everything, even though it explains nothing, and they should be made to believe every word is true, no matter how stupid those words are. And they should not, ever, ask questions about this book.

 

As for anti-god religion, that is what’s known as an oxymoron. As oxymoron is quite a big word, Ken might need to refer to a dictionary.


This latest news item details the formation of an atheist church that meets on Sunday. Why would they do this? Well, it’s really a part of an effort to fill the void in their lives because underneath it all they know God is the Creator and they have a conscience written on their hearts:

 

What void? Why does Ken believe that I need to believe in his invisible phantom power in order to enjoy life? Does the line “…it’s really a part of an effort to fill the void in their lives because underneath it all they know God is the Creator and they have a conscience written on their hearts” make any sense at all? If I knew God was the Creator, I wouldn’t be an atheist. Again, Ken, when you write this sort of rubbish, have a dictionary to hand and refer to it when you don’t understand words such atheist.
 
 
The article begins this way: “An ‘atheist church’ in North London is proving a big hit with non-believers. Does it feel a bit like a new religion?”
 
The reporter then states, “Not many sermons include the message that we are all going to die and there is no afterlife.”
 
This comment really sums it up for me. Atheists believe when they die they will cease to exist—which means they won’t know they were ever conscious beings—so what does that mean about life? It means it is totally meaningless and purposeless! But wait—the atheists are so aggressive in our world today to stop the Christian message. They are so active to protect their meaningless religion in educational institutions. Why do they even bother? If life is ultimately a meaningless existence for a short time—why do their efforts matter at all?
 
Their actions merely reinforce the fact that there is a spiritual battle going on and that they know in their hearts there is a God.

 

I’ve tried to explain before, Ken, but here goes again: Atheists do not believe that gods exist. We have considered all the evidence, found none, so do not believe in gods. Get that? We. Do NOT. Believe. In. Gods. I hope so, please do not make me repeat it again.

 

Apart from the fact that our bodies decay, we have absolutely no knowledge of what happens after death. The only way we can find out is if we die. But until then, I am verifiably alive, and while I have family and friends and an interest in continuing to live, my life has meaning. Ken on the other hand, believes that the afterlife is going to be far better for him than this Earthly one, so let me ask a question: How is his life not meaningless and purposeless if the afterlife is going to be infinitely better?

 

Aggressive? Aggressive how? We do not want to stop the Christian message. Some of it is actually quite worthy. If people want to be Christians, and they’re doing no harm to anybody else, well then, we really couldn’t care less.

 
But the Sunday Assembly is no ordinary church service.
 
Why would they meet on Sunday? I believe it is a way of shaking their fist at God—to make a mockery of the Christian celebration of Christ’s resurrection.

 

Or perhaps Sunday was a good day for people being able to attend, being a weekend day off work and all. We do not shake our fists at gods because…well, we do not believe in gods. Now look, you’ve made me repeat that assertion yet again. Are you being deliberately stupid?
 
It reminds me of the time a few years ago when a group of atheists visited the Creation Museum and then met outside the gates to mock communion (in reality, to mock the death and resurrection of Christ). One of them was served Kentucky bourbon and a cheese cracker!

 

Maybe more people would be interested in going to church is Kentucky bourbon and cheese crackers were offered. Not me, though.
 
The atheist church doesn’t sing Christian hymns, of course, but as the article states, “Instead of hymns, the non-faithful get to their feet to sing along to Stevie Wonder and Queen songs.”

 

All hail the almighty Freddy.
 
 
They obviously crave the truth of God they are suppressing as illustrated in this statement:
 
Another attendee, Gintare Karalyte, says: “I think people need that sense of connectedness because everyone is so singular right now, and to be part of something, and to feel like you are part of something. That’s what people are craving in the world.”

 

Craving to be part of something = supressing the truth of God. Really not sure how that works, but then I don’t possess the seriously twisted mind of Ken Ham.
 
And what is happening in England is also happening in America:
 
The number of people declaring themselves to be of “no religion” in England and Wales has increased by more than six million since 2001 to 14.1 million, according to the latest census. That makes England and Wales two of the most unreligious nations in the Western world.
 
Yay, good for us. It can be done.
 
And writer Alain De Botton has unveiled a Manifesto for Atheists, listing 10 virtues – or as the press has already dubbed them “commandments” – for the faithless.

 

And very good they are too. But as they don’t include anything about buttering up God’s ego, Ken doesn’t like them.
 
 
There is a concern among some non-believers that atheism is developing into a religion in its own right, with its own code of ethics and self-appointed high priests.

 

I’m completely unaware of such concern. Are you sure you’re not making things up, Ken (as your reputation would suggest you might)? Our own code of ethics? How dare we.
 
As we’ve been saying for a long time, two-thirds of young people in America are leaving the church by college age—this has already happened in England. The article states that people in this church “decided to abandon their Christian faith.” And the next paragraph really sums it up—and should be a warning for the church in America, for this is the reality of what has happened in England and the reality of where the church in America is heading:

 

Ken uses the word reality twice in one sentence. So he’s not entirely unaware of the concept of reality.
 
The Sunday Assembly certainly did better business than at the evangelical St Jude and St Paul’s Church next door, where about 30 believers gathered to sing gospel songs and listen to Bible readings.
 
 
But Bishop Harrison, a Christian preacher for 30 years, says he does not see his new neighbours as a threat, confidently predicting that their spiritual journey will eventually lead them to God.
 
“They have got to start from somewhere,” he says.

Ah well, as the song says, it’s not where you start, it’s where you finish.
 
Hopeless! He has no clue that it’s really because of the church and its rampant compromise on God’s Word that these people are on a journey away from Christianity!  God’s people need to repent of compromising His Word and start preaching the Word with authority and countering the false arguments of our day that have brainwashed generations into not trusting the Bible, and only then will we even begin to reach these who have been lost from the church.

 

Christians who are in touch with at least some reality are not proper Christians.
 
If you haven’t done so, I encourage you to read the book Already Gone, which discusses this youth exodus in detail and the remedies for a church that is losing the coming generations. You can read it online or purchase the book from our online store.

 

Shameless plug. Ken clearly needs the money. He has a big boat to build

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Comment by Lillie on February 7, 2013 at 2:39pm

Oh, but Ken, you will be in techno space in someone's family tree.

Comment by Ken Jackson on February 7, 2013 at 1:43pm

Living in the South Pacific, I have run-ins with Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehova Witnesses, and just about any and every xtian idiocy known to man....

After one or two visits and my letting them know in no uncertain terms that I do NOT believe in any imaginary being or fable foisted about as being the "Divine" word of some power hungry cult or idiocy that these rather uneducated people believe in. 

Yes, I am married to a Polynesian, and she is a xtian, we do NOT discuss religion, its dogma or its bullshit...  We get along very well and she and the family know my Atheist background and respect me for my morality and ethos...  My children are adults and knew that they were free to believe or disbelieve as they chose.  My daughter became a mormon as she married into a mormon family.  They wanted to baptize me when I die so I could be with the family and I made sure in my will there will be NO religious ceremony in any church or religious building.  Nor at the cemetery, as I wish to be interned at sea between Raiatea and Bora Bora.  The sea is my mother and I wish to be returned to her for my final resting place.  Besides, in 50 to 70 years no one will be alive to remember me anyway....  

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