Should Atheists Hold to the Age Old Belief that Certain Words are Dirty

Basicly, each so called dirty word gains it's dirty word status because at some point in time religious believers claimed that they were dirty mostly because they blasphemed their god or they thought the words definition was offensive or repulsive. Well, we in the atheist community don't believe in god or religion so is it rational for us atheists to totally avoid these words like religious people do??? Should we use them but not in mixed company in fear of offending anyone??? Or should we go around spewing them whenever we feel the need???

I ask this because many times when talking to fellow atheists, I noticed or I got a feeling that they were intentionally not using them for whatever reason. I use them but usually when expressing emotions and not all the time.
What do you think, are dirty words dirty to an atheist???

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Comment by Ron Edwards on August 2, 2009 at 8:05pm
I agree Scott. The old testament especially is nothing but a book of filth, hate and death of epic scale. Since becoming an atheist, I've said many times that I would be far less concerned to catch a child with smut mags opposed to them reading the filth of the bible.

Ahhh, the old war between Thunderf00t, dprJones and PCS and basicly anyone else who tried to educate the poor mindless boy... Youtube hasn't really been the same since PCS's debacle. I still think it is just a matter of time before we find PCS the star of his own televangilist mega ministry. (scary but very possible)
Even though I'm not a big wikipedia fan, they do have an extensive page concerning the word Fuck. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck
I believe all curse words have a place in language and shouldn't dictate ones intelligence when used properly. I believe everyone should have a right to use them however they want under freespeech. I believe theists should keep their opinions on curse words within the church and to themselves.
Comment by ThorsDecree on August 1, 2009 at 4:27pm
I saw an interesting video on Youtube once (I think it was about Thunderf00t, maybe PCS was bashing on him for swearing?) in which the speaker pointed out that most of the people he knew who regularly cursed were of above-average intelligence. The meaning of swearing is definitely subjective to the context; the word "fuck," for example, has literally dozens of meanings and can be correctly used as almost any form of word in the English language.

Anyway, as I said above, swearing is useful when used properly, but in general one should just watch the ideas they communicate. If swearing helps convey your idea, then it is a good thing. If, however, it is a hindrance to the communication of that idee, then it is against the purpose of language and thus is harmful in speech. As a final note, I'm pretty much cool with any type of swearing that isn't intended in a derogatory way against a particular person or group.
Comment by Scott on July 31, 2009 at 12:14pm
I guess you could say the entire bible is a book of dirty words.
Comment by Scott on July 31, 2009 at 11:35am
Life is like the ocean. Who wants to spend all their time skimming the surface when There is much more diversity at the bottom! It seems that those elitist "fish" at the top can't seem to stay out of my neck of the water! It must be quite boring up there with so few interesting "fish" to swim with.
Comment by Little Name Atheist on July 31, 2009 at 1:22am
Comment by Jim DePaulo on July 30, 2009 at 8:07pm
When people tell me I am using swear words because of a limited vocabulary, I see no sense in avoiding them and, thus, further limiting my vocabulary. Calling some lowlife an idiot doesn't have the real visceral intent as when calling them a FUCKING idiot.
Comment by Mike Gonsalves on July 30, 2009 at 5:05pm
I think of "dirty" words as emotional intensifiers. If you use them all the time, they lose their effect. Better to save them for when you really want to express something intense. :-)
Comment by Scott on July 30, 2009 at 3:29pm
Don't get me wrong, I cuss like a sailor. Language is situational. You will talk to your friends differently than you would your parents. If you were applying to a university you would not speak the same as you would at the bar. I am a pot smoking, beach going tattoo artist and I certainly have a filthy mouth at times. I am mainly talking about pwople who can not convey a simle idea without cussing. There is definitely a link in common word usage and linguistic capabilities.
Comment by vandrerol on July 30, 2009 at 2:49pm
What do you think, are dirty words dirty to an atheist???
Fuck, no!

Now that I thinking about it, I do swear more in English than in my native tongue, there must be something about the lack of alternative adjectives. Even if I do know the words, they sometimes don't come to mind in a conversation and I find myself cursing excessively.

On the other hand, I think it's ridiculous to replace the 'dirty' words with 'cleaner' ones, like spelling out Fuck like F*ck, or F--- or 'effing'. I mean, we all know what you meant to say, you're not really disguising anything. Avoiding words because someone thinks they are 'dirty' is nonsense.

But if you find yourself using words like 'cunt', 'slut', 'asshole' in an aggressive manner, you should think twice about what you're saying, not because the word is dirty, but because you're probably not being very reasonable in you ideas to begin with.
Comment by Joey on July 30, 2009 at 2:44pm
Profanity is for emphasis. If we feel emphatic, there's no reason not to use it.
"Well, once again, I'm waiting for the train." is quite a different sentence from"Well, once again, I'm waiting for the fucking train."
They're far more useful in text, where vocal emphasis is impossible.

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