It was just one more article from the Huffington Post about Stephen Hawking, the Big Bang, and the fact that no god was necessary to make the whole business happen.  I’ve probably seen dozens of such articles over the past four or five years and watched him discuss the matter with people like Larry King.  Same stuff, different day, right?  Not quite, really … because a handful of paragraphs down, the following is what grabbed my attention:

In another observation of modern religion, Hawking noted that in the 1980s, around the time he released a paper discussing the moment the universe was born, Pope John Paul II admonished the scientific establishment against studying the moment of creation, as it was holy.

Point being: religion is STILL at it.  They continue to attempt to label certain subjects as “holy,” which might as well mean, “off-limits,” “sacrosanct” or verboten – “forbidden.”  It’s an attempt, in this case by John Paul II, not just to assert the god-of-the-gaps argument, but to artificially enforce a gap for their god to exist in!  I find it fascinating that the catholic church makes a statement like this one the one hand while at the same time acknowledging the truth of the theory of evolution.  It’s as much as saying, “This part of history is describable with science, but the beginning has to be magic.”

And it is no different from the evangelicals who want to push creationism in schools.  It reflects their own reluctant recognition that human understanding through the scientific method is plainly and simply removing the need for any form of god and their desire, however futile or irrational, to sequester a crack somewhere that they can use to justify the continued existence of their deity.

If it were just for them, I’d check it off to their own brand of wishful thinking and let the matter drop.  The problem is, of course, that they want EVERYONE to believe it.  That’s as much as saying that they want everyone to be ignorant in a given area, just enough space for their god and his dogma to have a foothold.  That foothold too much resembles the old story of the camel wanting to warm his nose in the Arab’s tent.

That camel is out of luck, if I have anything to say.  We look, we examine, study, scrutinize and analyze, and we do it to EVERYTHING.  Putting a sign on one particular rock, saying “Do Not Turn Over” is roughly equivalent to expecting a kid with a sweet tooth and a dollar in his pocket to spend to walk though the local candy store with that dollar unspent.

Sorry, fellas, not gonna happen.

Views: 118

Tags: John Paul II, Stephen Hawking, catholic church, creationism, ignorance

Comment

You need to be a member of Atheist Nexus to add comments!

Join Atheist Nexus

Comment by Loren Miller on April 18, 2013 at 1:36pm

"The Epistle of the Fallopians," eh?  Wasn't that written by The Tubes?

Comment by Michael Penn on April 18, 2013 at 1:24pm

To add a little humor here let's all remember that it was Pope John Paul II who addressed the issue of abortion directly. He called it The Epistle To The Fallopians.   LOL

It's a great shame that we can have no healing in Boston without injecting religion into otherwise non-religious events. How many people believe it when these guys claim "they are praying for you?" What they are "praying" for is to keep their jobs and also keep political office. It appears that the gullible citizen helps them to do that, so let's pander to the citizen.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 18, 2013 at 11:16am

I've got to come out and say this, and if I'm being repetitively redundant while saying the same thing over and over again, so be it:

NOTHING IS HOLY.
NOTHING IS SACRED.
Nothing, NOTHING, NOTHING IS OFF-LIMITS FROM EXAMINATION, SCRUTINY OR ANALYSIS.

If something is alleged to have value, it can either demonstrate that value in an objective fashion or be subject to reevaluation of that putative value.  This includes religion and science, faith and atheism, and it excludes nothing.

If religion has survived for millennia, it has done so because it was not held up to scrutiny, but reserved from it because it was supposedly "sacred."  The church would have us believe that "sacred" means special, a gift from their god or something similar when all it means is "exempt from examination."  The church wants that exemption, too.  They want it badly ... because their existence lives and dies on it.  They know that any scrutiny reveals a lack of substance as blatant and obvious as The Emperor's New Clothes had.

And so here I am again, representing the Department of Repetitive Redundancy Department, saying: DO look.  DO study, scrutinize and examine ... and most of all: DO THINK, and think for yourself.

Do that ... because when enough people do that, the church won't have a prayer [wry grin].

Comment by Loren Miller on April 18, 2013 at 10:37am

You make a point, Lillie.  No doubt there are plenty of Christians represented at that meeting, and Jews and Muslims.  Considering that the "nones" are the fastest growing group as regards faith or lack thereof in the United States, Why AREN'T We Represented?

Comment by Pat on April 18, 2013 at 10:21am

Sadly, this (the moment of creation being "holy") is nothing more than, as the Four Tops would harmonize, The Same Old Song. 

Now it's the same old song
But with a different meaning
Since you been gone

With the "you" being god, and the "different meaning" being we now are closer to or actually have figured out the process that makes this (volcanoes, earthquakes, lightening, the moment of creation) work. All of these things, including the development of life (evolution), were the gaps in which the magic beings resided. Of course they were, and are still, off limits to the religionists. The snake oil salesman doesn't want his product analyzed by a chemist who can defeat his claims any more than a theist wants science analyzing their claims of magic.  It's simply not good for business.

Comment by Lillie on April 18, 2013 at 10:13am

As I read this, I also have the TV turned to the Interfaith "Healing" service in Boston (attended by any politician of significance including the President and Mit Romney) and I echo this posting, "Religion STILL at it."  Can't we "heal" without religion?  Are there any atheists present at this service who will speak?

Support Atheist Nexus

Donate Today

Donate

 

Help Nexus When You Buy From Amazon

Amazon

AJY

 

© 2014   Atheist Nexus. All rights reserved. Admin: Richard Haynes.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service