"And as he [Jesus] was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him, and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." (Mark 10:17-18;NASB – See also Luke 18:18-19)

Well there you have it. Right from the mouth of the man himself. Jesus admitting here through his answer that He wasn't God and, rather shockingly, that he considered himself less than “good”. That would make him less than "perfect" too, wouldn't it?

Puts the claim that Jesus was God right to bed, doesn't it? Or was “God” simply suffering temporary amnesia at the time?

Why oh why do the Christians have to espouse stuff so utterly preposterous in an attempt to "convert" we nonbelievers to their way of thinking? We non-theists and theists share a similar goal: We both want to be the best morally-upright human beings that we can possibly be. So what's the problem?

Jesus was a deity--yeah, right. And so is a cloud of supernatural interstellar gas known as the "Holy Spirit," don't ya know!

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Comment by Greywolf on July 20, 2009 at 12:35pm
You're darn tootin' none of it makes sense.

Want a quick easy one to ask the frickin' dumb-ass, born-again, Jesus junkies and make them feel as dumb as they truly are?

Simply ask them why Jesus-God didn't say three precious little words to Adam & Eve after the two Gods let Satan hoodwink the hapless pair into performing an evil act they truly didn't even know was "evil" until after the fact?

The three words? "I (We) forgive you!"

And then tell the pair to run along and play and to quit covering up their private parts; that the deer don't mind them being naked.

Hmm. I wonder if "God" and that son of His, God" argued over that one between themselves and the Interstellar Cloud of Gas, known as the Holy Spirit-God? Guess "God" won that argument, don't you think?
Comment by Ron Edwards on July 20, 2009 at 11:21am
To me, this whole idea that 'god and jesus are one in the same' is proof that the new testament that christians believe whole heartedly is simply bullshit from the start. First, why would god have any reason to be born for the purpose of transforming 'what ever form god actually is' into human form?? Are we to believe that god turned himself into a fetus and crawled into Mary's womb?? Ok, so god magicly appeared in her womb??? Why didn't god simply appear as jesus and forgo the whole birth and childhood bullshit??? Who the hell was controlling things in heaven for the 32 years that god was playing jesus on earth??? The way that god goes about the whole jesus on earth thing is stupid in the fact that he only hungout in the middle east and dissed the rest of the world.... "unless you believe the mormon bullshit". You could go on and on with questions like these because none of it makes since!!!
Comment by Greywolf on June 30, 2009 at 2:42am
Ooops! Forgot to add that this helps to illustrate just how intellectually dishonest Christians can get with themselves. One is sure entitled to one's personal beliefs, but, dang, you'd hope they would make a sincere effort be honest about things too.
Comment by Greywolf on June 30, 2009 at 2:24am
I can't help but think of the Jesus and his plaintive cry from the cross, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Mark 15:34; Matthew 27:46) and wonder who infallible-bible believing Christians think Jesus was talking to? Himself?

Note: The Jesus of the afore-cited passages wasn't calling out to his “Father” but to his “God” going by the original languages; those particular texts being a combination of Aramaic and Hebrew translated into Greek. There is no question that Jesus was referring to God as his God and, obviously, to something he was not.

But try telling that to those Christians who, come hell or high water, insist Jesus and the “Father” are one and the same “God”!

Now if there isn't some kind of contradiction involved here, I don't know what a contradiction is anymore. And the pat, standard answer to what the scene really signifies, “It's a mystery,” is no answer at all. It's a lame-ass cop-out and a denial of the obvious.

Come across any square circles lately?
Comment by Johnsky on June 29, 2009 at 8:09pm
I would have thought the personality differences would be obvious...

I mean, god killed millions of people in their book.
Which is something the Jesus character was very much against.

If Jesus was God, then the story would read more like "You've all screwed up, now freaking DIE!... IN AGONY!!!!"

I mean, that would be a dead give-away to me.

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