I found this video on YouTube and 99% of the commenters seem to think this guy is a genius -- I just don't get it. There are people claiming to have been atheist who say this video converted them.

Essentially, he seems to be saying that since he says he can prove that time and matter didn't always exist that something had to have created it. And because things are complex, that proves that the creator is incredibly intelligent. He says he has us "cornered" and that some us don't "want" to believe in god because that makes us accountable to a creator.

There are links in the video to find out who created god, etc. but I couldn't bear to subject myself to any more of his illogical circular arguments (which we've all heard 1000 times).

Does anyone have any idea why so many people would find this argument convincing? I think the video could use a few more comments to show that all of us aren't so easily decieved by pseudo-logic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEXGKzH0F9c

PS: If you want to find out exactly what god expects of you and how to get back in his good graces, this guy can help you with that too -- do you think he has one of those special red phones with only one button?

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Comment by Lone Wolf on January 28, 2009 at 8:08pm
VFX censers his comments so that only the blind idiots get threw. Plus he probably has many fake accounts where he only posts comments he likes at his videos.
Comment by j on January 28, 2009 at 6:52pm
The God of the Big Bang is not the God of the Bible!!! He did not disprove the Big Bang / Relativity.
Too many assumptions "it has to be God because I'm too ignorant to know better..."
I would never LET an idiot like that witness to me if I could help it. He would just prove he and his god are dumb.

Notice how he didn't want to contrast a 6000 year old universe with a 15 billion year old universe??? It doesn't matter? What?
Comment by catscradle on January 28, 2009 at 3:56pm
This has been bothering me quite a bit lately: it appears that as long as anyone says something nonscientific, there is an endless stream of people willing to believe it. Dilute "medicine" with water until there is absolutely, positively nothing left of it? Give me 100$ worth of that! An obnoxious, wife-beating, drug-addicted scifi-writer says he can help me overcome the thetans enslaving me in exchange for a measly $1 million? My, only an ignorant suppressive person would say that's hogwash!

I live in a secular Western-European country. I've a university degree, stick mostly to my own, and never bothered much with other people's beliefs until I recently got sucked into one of those mind-boggling debates on evolution. I had no idea people could be this easily - and, often, willingly - misled.

Doesn't seem a whole lot can be done about it. At this point, I'm hoping will someone will become a medium for Kurt Vonnegut and start channeling him. I miss his thoughts on everything, I really do.
Comment by It's just Matt on January 28, 2009 at 11:30am
Thunderfoot, Andromeda's wake, potholer 54, and patcondell have plenty of videos further exploiting the ignorant babble PCS and others spew.
Comment by Jude Johnson on January 28, 2009 at 11:23am
I was discovering Thunderf00t's series just as you were typing that -- it's like watching Richard Dawkins debate with a 5-year-old (or Ray Comfort). Surely he isn't so ignorant not to notice that Thunderf00t out-matches his intelligence at every turn? Nevermind -- I suppose he has proven he is that ignorant.

I'm so glad that one of us has the time, energy, and patience to combat such ridiculous ideas. My sincere thanks to all who do! (I have none of the three - not for that pursuit anyway.)

I can gladly report to you, however, that my ex-husband (and best friend) reported to me the other day that my logical positons on abortion and gay rights over the last 22 years have converted him on those two topics. I'm sure he'll never stop believing in god (he's a recent convert to Judaism) -- but who cares what they believe as long as long as their illogical beliefs aren't imposed upon us?
Comment by Shlarg on January 28, 2009 at 11:01am
Venomfangx is a self-serving, egotistical fraud and liar suffering from delusions of grandeur. I doubt he's convinced even one atheist there's a god. There's a video out there somewhere comparing what he says about evolution with Kent Hovind. The video shows he's copying Kent Hovind almost ver batim. He's a laughing stock among atheists. Sadly he has some respect among the fundies. Just makes them look stupid.
He has a lot subscribers but I think many of them are just people looking for a bit of comedic relief.
Comment by Phillip Law on January 28, 2009 at 10:58am
He is VFX. He is an idiot fundamentalist who has been shown to be a complete moron, his followers are basically all christians.

Look at thunderf00t who is in a 'war' with this moron:
http://au.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t

Have a look at the 'Why to people laugh at creationists' series and see how retarded his arguments are.

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