May I make a suggestion? Why not push for a law that requires all politicians to take a (or a number of) science class(es) on the scientific method and a (or a number of) class(es) on sceptical thinking and pass an exam before they can RUN for office (not take office). That will insure that not only the politicians who hold office will have a basic understanding of science, but those who have tried to hold office. Most people think that teaching our kids is the best way to promote secularism, but I think we need more!!! What do you think?

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Comment by Future on January 17, 2013 at 12:31pm

Taking a class is easy.  Doesn't mean it will change the fundamentalist or evangelical, or their Dominionist agendas.  It would just be a hoop to jump through, and they would gladly take one for the team if it paved the way to a political seat.

Comment by AtheistTech on January 17, 2013 at 12:38pm

Am I to understand that the fundamentalist or evangelical will never be influenced by anything other than the Bible and their leaders? What about the rest of the religious people? I believe there are many more of them than fundamentalists and evangelicals. I'll be back after I find some information on the number of fundamentals vs. religious people in the USA. Until then, just sit there and quake in your boots!!!!!

Comment by AtheistTech on January 17, 2013 at 12:49pm

2010 Gallup poll results found here: http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/Four-Americans-Believe-Strict-Cre...

Now I would like to see a poll of the group that say that "God created humans in present form within the last 10,000 years" asking them what career they have chosen. WHAT A FUCKIN' SURPRISE IT WOULD BE IF THE MAJORITY OF THAT GROUP CHOOSE POLITICS?!?!?!?!?

Comment by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 17, 2013 at 12:55pm

                  Why is it so?

Comment by AtheistTech on January 17, 2013 at 1:06pm

Napa dude(ette), Huh?

Comment by Future on January 17, 2013 at 1:21pm

It's not that fundamentalists or evangelicals will never be influenced by anything other than the Bible and their leaders, it's just that they are far less likely to.  They believe that they already know everything thing that they need to know.  A class will not do anything for someone who is certain that they already have the critical knowledge, particularly when the material in the class does not align with what they know. There certainly are people who break free of that mindset, and many of them are members right here on AN, but expecting the ones who are still under full indoctrination to change their thinking because of a requisite class is like expecting a narcissist to admit that they are wrong.  Those inclined to get into politics will pretend to do whatever it is they have to do in order to carry out their god-given orders of advancing Dominionist policies.

Comment by AtheistTech on January 17, 2013 at 5:42pm

Future? Why are fundamentalists called extremists? What is the definition of extremist? How many extremists are there in a given population? I must say you have an interesting view on this subject! Enjoy it while it is "true"!!!!

Comment by sk1951 on January 17, 2013 at 9:56pm

RELIGIOUS WARS…REALITY OR IMAGINATION

Organized religion is not God. When a person questions or turns away from organized religion it is not turning their back on God. It is turning away from organized religion and the crazy dogma of all the many religions. God did not create religion…people did. People that elevated themselves to god like positions and claimed to speak for god creating religious government rules and regulations. The founders were very concerned about organized religion and specifically wrote that Americans would be free from religious persecution. We were to be allowed to believe God however we wanted and to not believe if we wanted. God is not a part of religion. Religion has made God a part of religion. The religious have no right or place to say anything to anyone about how they choose to believe or disbelieve.

Comment by sk1951 on January 17, 2013 at 10:04pm

The reason for believing the world is only 6000 years is because religion has been around that long. The reason the Fundi cannot view science is because of their creation dogma. There is no gray only black and white. Fundi will never come around to a half way view point. Carl Sagan: You can't talk to a believer because their need to believe is stronger than their need for the truth."

Comment by Future on January 18, 2013 at 7:18am

When a person questions or turns away from organized religion it is not turning their back on God. It is turning away from organized religion and the crazy dogma of all the many religions.

sk1951 - That statement looks like it was written by an evangelical.  Where is there room for atheists in that statement?  I am an atheist, and I have turned my back on the concept of God as an even higher priority than turning my back on organized religions.  The way you framed that makes you appear to think that it is not possible to truly believe that there is no such things as gods.  Please clarify if that is what you think, or if your statement was just misworded.

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