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I fight with myself about kids and welfare, Nathan. I HATE having to9 pay 2/3's of my property tax bill to pay for someone else's kids. I have none and want none. These kids grow up expecting a handout. They don' always study in the free schooling they get and often fail out or drop out. I'm torn. I DO think that a bill of some sort should be sent to their parents. If those parents ever do come into any money, they should have to pay it back...just like with federal college loans.
Greg, I am for most immunizations, but not all. Prog Girl, health insurance is NOT prevention exactly. Eating right, exercising and avoiding dangerous acts or places or people IS. I live in GA where nearly everyone is obese and the few who aren't smoke and eat a diet of pure junk food and probably drink, too. They don't respec their bodies and therefore, themselves. I think we need to focuse on this underlying problem a bit more. Another problem is that both sodas and cigarettes and desserts/junk food are allowed to be purchased on foodstamps. This sends the wrong message. Some groups have tried to sue the gov't to stop allowing unhealthy items to be purchased with foodstamps/EBT, but the big companies won. On the Foodstamps poster in the grocery store. one major company advertises (descreetly) their over-processed products. Fascism, pure and simple.
Sure prevention is the best health care. And health insurance is usually how people get to have preventative care, such as checking cholesterol, blood sugar, screening for illnesses.
Eating right is great, let's just hope you don't have some allergy to otherwise healthy foods that you are unable to pinpoint without allergic tests, which usually require insurance. Food allergies aren't always obvious and without tests all you have to go by is trial and error; in the meantime some food allergies are fatal.
The rest of the things you mentioned are nice suggestions in general and have some effect on health but expecting them to prevent or cure all illnesses is just new age nonsense.
I also have to ask why do other people's children become the responsibility of the government? Sure, we should make sure kids have proper healthcare, and there is MAYBE some place for that, but I think it is better left to charitable organizations than the government. People having children and expecting that the government should provide for them is a major issue. I know it sounds cold, but the only way things change is when that personal accountability smacks you across the face and life kicks you in the ass. If the government keeps rushing in to rescue everyone from their poor decisions they will continue to make poor decisions. In America we are essentially rewarded for bad choices. We are actually conditioned to make poor choices, especially economically, because in so many different cases the government will save you and it will actually work out better than if you made the right choice, though the more difficult one, and did it on your own.
It makes sense to have a competitive market that produces affordable health care solutions available to all Americans. It does not make sense for the government to mandate that we have to purchase health insurance. People have this notion that this will somehow drive costs down. It won't. We have seen these kinds of things before outside of healthcare and it doesn't work that way.
The government subsidizes student loans...cost of education goes through the roof and continues to climb as the bubble continues to deflate. Also one could argue that the quality of education has significantly declined, which I believe will be true with health care as well.
How about housing? We all know what happened when the government got involved there. Insurance companies operate on the practice of having to pay out very little. Once everyone in America is mandated to purchase health insurance, of course they will use it, and frivolously as well. People are going to run to the doctor for everything. Health care providers will raise the prices ridiculously because they know everyone has insurance. Eventually the insurance companies just like mortgage lenders are not going to be able to sustain in that climate, paying out ridiculous amounts of money to health care providers, and in comes the government to bail out another "too big to fail" industry. This belongs in the private sector and individuals are responsible for their own healthcare and well being, and insurance companies and health care providers are responsible to keep things manageable and a free market that applies pressure through competition would achieve this. Those unable to adapt would go under. All this croni-capitalism and socialism is destroying us from the inside out, and if people don't wake up now the point is fast approaching when it will be too late.
Everyone is focusing on the bleeding heart idea that we have to make sure everyone is taken care of. I am sorry, and I don't mean to be harsh, but no. Absolutely not. Every American is not every other American's responsibility. No more having the government hold our hands and use our money deviously. The nanny state is ridiculous, if people want to be taken care of move back to your mother's house and she can sing you a song and rub Vicks on your chest when you're sick. People need personal accountability and personal responsibility. Middle aged children suckling from the government is pathetic. It's flat our socialism and socialism leads to tyranny. Every time. Check the history books. This can not stand any longer people.
Greg, the Health Dep't already offers free immunizations! I'm for most of those shots, but not all of them.. Some may contain live virus that could later lead to cancer, since we now know that viruses can cause cancer. Poor argument.
Genes, matter, Alan, better prevention more so. That includes avoiding chemicals and accidents and dangerous people. We can avoid getting ripped off or dating an abuser/cheater/addict. Prevention in all areas. We need to teach our children in school that their brain is their power, if they choose to use it, and NOT the gov't or the group or the mob. Or god/the church! we need to teach critical thinking and make it 'cool' to think, to be an individual, to be PRO-active!
I completely agree with Tonya, but that will NEVER sell politically. It requires people to do a lot more than they're willling to do.
Don't get me started on prevention. A whole generation is putting itself at risk for adult-onset diabetes, getting 1/4 of their calories from sugar.
The best thing politically is to assure them that the govt. will take care of them even more and even better, forever, although it is broke and owes trillions.
Don't underestimate the power of genes in longevity. My mother is 95 and relatively healthy and active. Never exercised in her life. Stopped smoking long ago. Her father lived to 82 on a diet of chicken fat. My father had excellent eating habits and died of lymphoma at 69.
The problem is Americans should never be mandated to buy anything. The Constitution prtects us from such, but skewed views of the Supreme Court to re-label the bill as a tax rather than a mandate shoot us down. However, that does not make it Constitutional. The supreme Court says Congress has unlimited power to levy taxes...this is false, and sickening. As Americans we have the right to choose as protected by the greatest Constitution ever created. We must bear in mind that it also comes with great personal responsibility. However, that does not mean the federal government can levy mandates and taxes upon us without approval of individual states and remove yet one more option/choice/freedom that we have left to our name
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