My rebellious daughter 13 is been stolen by God

I really don't know whether to laugh or fall down in a heap and cry.
Tonight a lady in floral skirt and perfect makeup took my daughter to a 7th day Adventis meeting. I am a passionate atheist and rationalist and I allow her to go through and discover the world as she deems right for her. But how COULD SHE DO THIS TO ME!!! I really did not know much about this religion I guess its part of the monolithic group and low and behold this is a really literal group. They believe every thing in the bible. Am I right or am I right?
She is still there with the lady in the neat femine skirt and light pink lipstick. She picked her up.. out the front of my atheist evolutionist home. She grabbed my hand and said thank you so much for letting us take your daughter. It was dark in the front lawn and she could not me seething with horror. I think I said . "You just go ahead and brain wash a young impressionable mind. Go ahead have my daughter she is just ripe for service." But what I really said in the face of my daughter was" No, no thats fine that really is fine, Have fun.
She is still there, still.

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Comment by Daniel W on April 11, 2009 at 8:40pm
Victoria,
Sounds to me like you are preparing your daughter for a well reasoned look at the world, with tools of skepticism and reason. Your worries sound like the normal worries of a caring parent in a scary world that we live in.

I doubt that you could form an "Atheist Scout" group, even in the most liberal settings. If you have the resources, I think that there is a free thought summer camp, but I really dont know much about it. Doubtless, this will not be the last time that she has contact with religious groups, but with reason, love, and understanding, and some luck, it sounds like she'll grow up to thank her mom for the tools that she was given.
Comment by Victoria's View on April 11, 2009 at 7:40pm
Dear concerned people, THis lady was no stranger to us and Eliza has known her daughter for over 10 years. I live in a country village with about 3000 people. THe thing is people, I know my daughter extremely well and she is not easily persuaded . She wants to experience, understand and then judge for her self. THats what I wish I had as a child growing up. I went to catholic boarding school and it was not until I was 18 that I discovered evolution!!! If I said she could not go ...she would call me a hypocrite, and she would be right. Eliza was brought up with evolution not a dogma...she is discovering them now...and it shocked me that she was interested. But she is actually being a 13 year old rebelling against me, seperating herself from me, this is one way she is doing this. Last night she said to me ,that she finds it silly "that grown ups believe that someone clicked their fingers or waved their wand and poof there was the world!!!" I think I have armed her well to think for herself. Isn't that what us atheists are all about. We want people to think for themselves.There is no social activities here that are not affiliated with a church. Maybe I should start one up for the kids here, alas I wouldnt get the funding. In any case I would not put my daughter in any danger. It is best she explores superstituations now while she has a strong loving family here to help her interpretate her experiences. It was a risk, that knowing my daughter was worth it. She will go for the lemonade and learn from the lies.
Comment by HotMess on April 11, 2009 at 7:23pm
Both my kids were "Christian" for a while. I told them they were free to believe if they wanted to, and they both got over it. My daughter even watched Religulous last week right after she had been to a "Young Life" group the night before. It's good to let them see what goes on inside of religious circles, so that there's no mystery or feeling of deprivation.
It really is all good!
Comment by zeeman barzell on April 10, 2009 at 11:54am
Tell her Jehovah's Witnesses don't have birthday parties. That oughta turn her off.
Comment by unholyroller on April 9, 2009 at 9:13pm
I'm so glad that your daughter came through the experience unscathed. The Jehovah's Witlesses are a cult...pure and simple. There are much better ways for her to learn about religions than letting her go off with someone who's agenda is clearly to gain a convert.

On the other side, my 11 year old granddaughter has decided, with very little encouragement from me, to be an atheist like her Granny. This may or may not change as she grow up, but I hope to continue to be a good influance. Keep us posted on your daughter's adventures in learning.
Comment by Andrew on April 9, 2009 at 8:47pm
I think I missed something...

As a parent I have every intention of preventing the cultish activities of groups like this from attempting to brainwash my daughter who is not 13. As parents we occasionally look back and thing "how could I have allowed this to happen" and learn from it. I don't see a child's life as something that is a buffet of beliefs that they should be presented with to 'choose' for themselves. There are a LOT of self serving, poor intentioned people that my daughter is going to encounter. I will step in when possible, including smacking nutjobs with a broom if needed, to ALLOW her the opportunity to learn about life.

An analogy might be freedom of speech. A person can say what ever they want to (preferably without hate.) The attention they get fuels their cause and can be avoided if you disagree with the statements. If you disagree with a groups 'beliefs', ' values', morals' or whatever, you can say no to lending a supportive ear.

Fortunately she developed a bored view of the whole thing, but there are many groups that will try to make it an exciting event to draw the young folks back.

You will inevitably make your own decision, however, with the little information above, I would advise standing along side your daughter with truthful knowledge while still enjoying the world of magic. It can be an illusion without having to be a deceit.
Comment by Фелч Гроган on April 9, 2009 at 8:30pm
So its all good ....

No it's not. How is it that a complete stranger contacted her in the first place ? And why is it that you let her go ? What did you really know about this person or what their intents were ? This reads like a bad TodayTonight story waiting to happen.
Comment by Victoria's View on April 9, 2009 at 4:08pm
Well People thank you for your support during my fearful stage last night!! My daughter Eliza did get the name of the religion wrong. THey were Jehovan Witness. Is that how you spell it? I haven't bothered to look them up yet, as I don't think Eliza will be returning. She basically came home and told me that you had to pass bread around and no one was allowed to eat it. She asked if she could taste it and everybody laughed! She could not see what was so funny. My partner and I asked her many questions re: what Easter meant to them and so forth. She had no idea only that she was bored..good. I think she will just stick to the united church social group as they have music and play pool. So its all good ....
Comment by Rev Hellbound Alleee on April 9, 2009 at 2:20pm
So talk to her afterward. Talk to her about what she heard, and tell her what you think. Tell her exactly what you think. Don't hold back on her. Don't censor yourself.

I cannot tell you how glad I am that my parents were honest with me, and let me read WHATEVER I wanted to read. They let me go to whatever church I wanted to go to. They wanted to know what I thought. Then they talked to me. We talked all the time. This is key. This is what I'm grateful for. They talked to me. and were honest with me. If they thought that something was horrible, they told me exactly what they thought. Then they said "if I'm wrong, and I find out, I will be the first to admit that."

And here I am.

And I still call my folks 2 or three times a week, and see them a couple times a month. I mean, yeah. I think your kid's gonna be okay. BREATHE.

And then talk.
Comment by River Otter on April 9, 2009 at 12:42pm
Who is this woman? How do you know her? Where did your child go with her? What are they doing? How long has she been gone?

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