My Deconversion Interview on A Matter of Doubt

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Comment by Alice on January 2, 2012 at 2:18am

Glen - you have a point there - because I didn't have much hope of becoming a scientist - due to circumstances of birth.... although I do believe that I have the intellectual capacity - just not the social and educational opportunities early on... although I suppose I could always take it up now...

Comment by Glen Rosenberg on January 1, 2012 at 10:56pm

Alice-I am not surprised you rejected your cult, you are wildly curious. I dont think it is a question of being attracted to it as much as being brainwashed into it. And for adults who turn to cults I have read that they tend to be emotionally vulnerable.

I would also love to know stats on children born into cults who become scientists compared with the greater population.

Comment by Alice on January 1, 2012 at 10:07pm

Glen - I too grew up in a cult: http://www.bkwsu.org/

But I had a thirst that caused me to feel stifled and unsatisfied in that environment - I still can't understand why adults are attracted to it and stick with it!  But they do.

I would be interested in seeing some stats supporting your claims....

Comment by Glen Rosenberg on January 1, 2012 at 2:06pm

Alice, my main point is that religion curtails cognitive development. The extent to which it operates in this manner is a function of the power of the religious cult. And women in particular are victimized. In less restrictive religious indoctrination greater development occurs. In atheistic culture free of political ideology still greater cognitive development results.

Chris Cherry was raised in a potent religious cult. Not sure whether it is as all-consuming as some of today's muslim world or christian world in Africa or medieval christianity or for that matter other sects of christianity-but it will do as a model. Fortunately Chris overcame that environment. Not many can.

Her world was insular and xenophobic. Knowledge was propaganda-outdated textbooks and anachronistic doctrine. Women were good for having babies and being married, not achieving or learning or developing their potential. And the world she lived in was filled with premade steps and stages which made the narrow existence of her cult intelligible so long as outside influence is removed.

Comment by Alice on January 1, 2012 at 12:37am

I wanted to believe what they told me - but something deep down - since I was about 7 years old, it didn't stack up to reality as I saw it.  Things like when they say that God told them something etc....

Comment by Alice on January 1, 2012 at 12:36am

I grew up in an Indian cult - interesting changing attitudes....

Comment by Alice on January 1, 2012 at 12:35am

Glen - what was your point again?

Comment by Alice on January 1, 2012 at 12:21am

I'm here - I'll have a listen.

Comment by Glen Rosenberg on December 31, 2011 at 3:04pm

Chris, thanks for sharing that. As I listened I wondered whether you are a writer. Glad to hear that you are.

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