Abortion, Gay Marriage & the GRA

I promised to avoid discussing these issues because I believe most Americans 

cannot intelligently discuss the topics because of prior conditioning and outright ignorance. Today the

 United States Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act a decision that mad

e some happy and upset others. The first groups to complain were church groups speaking of degrading the v

alue of marriage totally ignoring the hypocrisy filling their mouths as the most divorced group in the country are Christians.

A question occurs to the religious and those opposed to gay marriage and that is why. There can be no religious justification considering divorce rates and adultery rates. So, the answer must lie elsewhere and in my opinion it is hatred. Some would not characterize it as hatred, but as uncomfortableness. Whatever it is called in any other setting is hatred.  My personal q

uestion is, “Who cares?” I certainly don’t give a damn about who’s doing who. It has no effect on my marriage and the values of my family.

In Texas abortion fervor is burning brightly as expected in a highly religious, conservative Bible Belt state. Once again, Texas is leading the charge to find a way to end abortion in the state by making it more difficult to obtain. For me the obvious question is why there such a demand for abortions? Will banning abortion stop people from having unplanned pregnancy? Why are those so concerned with bring another life into the world lined up to adopt these children, help the mothers, find decent housing and assist rather than complain about the taxes. By the way Texas is also a leader in abortion despite its Bible Belt status.

NSA spy reports are more popular than NCIS reruns and the information is nearly as strained and speculated. Anyone in this country that doesn’t recognize they being monitored just fell off the turnip truck or has been in a coma for the last fifty years. Once the US became electronic one of the first people the military recruited was Thomas Edison although it is said nothing came of the collaboration we have to take that on faith.

Breaking codes and listening in on conversations are time honored espionage techniques. V


What goes on at NSA is serious business and unfortunately much of it is necessary because of the people we harbor here, the number of unscrupulous businesses and power of the military tied to the government. There are things we need to fear, but currently the NSA is not one of them until we know what was lost if anything and what damage control is necessary if any voices can be read from a window as it acts as diaphragm that sophisticated software interprets, but that’s old now. Banks of supercomputers can scan millions of phone calls in mere seconds looking for key words. Yet, the best source of information is us. Nearly anything about a person can be found on the Internet including maiden names, street addresses, family pictures, history and more without the aid of NSA.

Perhaps, I said all of this just to say if it doesn’t affect you “mind your own business.”

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Comment by Donald R Barbera on June 27, 2013 at 7:55pm
Debra--you are so right. First, the writings referring to a man as with a woman come from the priestly tribes Liviticus. That is an important point to keep in mind. Also, the greatest perverter of Christianity, Paul, was responsible for many of the sexual issues men and women suffer under today. Celibacy was not a biblical command, it was a Catholic interpretation of a few lines from whoever wrote Paul.
Comment by Donald R Barbera on June 27, 2013 at 11:59am

Sentient Biped--As usual, you are right on target except for one major drawback--all of your ideas make far too much sense. The idea in this country has always been to impose ones values on another. Only when we understand that as you pointed out it will continued in the divide.

Comment by Donald R Barbera on June 27, 2013 at 11:56am

Grinning Cat--Some of my research for "The 80% Solution" shows that not only gay couples engaged in longer lasting relationships, but are also better at parenting.

Comment by Donald R Barbera on June 27, 2013 at 11:53am

Joan Denoo I think you are right on target. Although the secular movement has been at the forefront of showing the inconsistencies, errors and downright lies in the Bible, it is the behavior of religionists themselves that is killing their beloved faith. In my book "The 80% solution," I point out exactly what Christians say and what they practice and to no one's surprise the difference it great.

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 27, 2013 at 11:43am

There is some argument that egalitarian gay relationships have something to teach some heterosexuals. 

As in this article from The Atlantic:

The Gay Guide to Wedded Bliss
Research finds that same-sex unions are happier than heterosexual marriages. What can gay and lesbian couples teach straight ones about living in harmony?

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 27, 2013 at 11:34am

The religious right has to be confronted with the fallacy of their beliefs, and the only way I can think of doing it is to expose what the bible really says. If they were held accountable for the amount of violence that takes place under religious influence, they probably will not be influenced, but those who are confused or sitting on the fence will have information to help them decide on which side of the fence they want to come down on. Religion > politics > leads to oppression. 

Just a few sites that help educate:

Wonders of Life by Brian Cox – with added Eric Idle

Richard Feynman - The Pleasure Of Finding Things Out

The Case Against Christianity (Richard Carrier)

Hector Avalos: Religion and Violence, A New Theory for an Old Problem

Comment by Sentient Biped on June 27, 2013 at 10:49am

You are right about many Americans not able to discuss these topics because of prior conditioning and outright ignorance.  I don't know about most, but maybe.

The trouble with humanizing and allowing LGBT people to have dignity and respect, is it's one less category of people to demonize.  Who remains then?  Immigrants, maybe?  Ignorant people, and some intelligent people, need scapegoats.  Us/them.  For people who are tribally inclined, which is most people a "them" to demonize is as important as the air they breathe.  The only way to unite humanity, might be invasion by space aliens.  On a more earth-bound level, Texans and Californians can always hate each other, and define themselves as not the other.

By honoring the marriages of LGBT people, and supporting those marriages, there is potential for more stable relationships, which would benefit society.  There is some argument that egalitarian gay relationships have something to teach some heterosexuals.  Maybe, maybe not.

Universal sex education might be a better way to reduce abortions, than passing more stringent anti-abortion laws.  Plus, promotion of sodomy.  Sodomy never causes pregnancy, and therefore never results in abortion.  The Texas legislature should pass a "Texas Sodomy Promotion Act".  Maybe you should write an editorial for the local paper.

As  a Biblical-inspired state, Texans should know that the Bible does not restrict opposite sex extra-genital intercourse.  I think.   Only the act of "a man laying with a man like a woman".   And spilling the semen on the ground in defiance of god's command to impregnate one's sister-in-law.    Also. the bible does not ever prohibit or restrict abortion.  In fact, there are many cases of god-inspired infanticide.  Texans need to learn their Bible.  So should other people.

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