Is rape more morally abhorrent than murder?

I've heard a lot of people say that they think rape is worse than murder. I'm not sure where I stand on this, but I have a few opinions that sway me either way.
1. You can have a good reason to kill someone, like they are trying to kill you, although this may not count a murder, since it was out of self defense.
2. There is never a good reason to rape someone.
3. After a rape, the victim is never fully healed. Rape victims often have flashbacks, memories long after the rape happened. They never can live their lives the same again, they are never the same person again.
I have some more, but I'd like to hear what others have to say.
Murder could be considered worse because once the person is dead, they are never coming back, but at least they don't suffer through life.

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Comment by Prog Rock Girl on February 27, 2010 at 10:26am
Well, I have at times thought that some rapists, along with murderers, should get the death penalty.
Comment by Jennifer W on February 27, 2010 at 10:23am
I don't try to weigh how bad they are. It's pretty black and white to me: Rape= bad, Murder=bad

It's not like cops go to a murder scene and say: "Well, atleast she wasn't raped!"
Comment by amer muhammad on February 27, 2010 at 5:47am
To compare rape and murder, we are only taking a person being raped or killed as only effected. There are others too who feel the effect. For example we don't know how lives are destoyed when bread earner of the faimly is killed. Children denied good education and thus suffer for whole of their lives. Our minds are perhaps unable to make full understanding of the damage. So it depends on the case that what is worse.
Comment by DanDare on February 27, 2010 at 4:26am
Put it a different way: Injuring someone and scarring their psyche is more morally abhorrent than murder.
Comment by Фелч Гроган on February 27, 2010 at 2:40am
This is a nauseating argument - any answer you choose to give is an unexploded bomb. The position that it is worse than murder was championed by Dworkin et al, amongst other interesting ideas eg. all penetrative sex is rape and the FBI pretends the snuff film industry is an urban legend while secretly running the black market for it (though I think the second one is more Catharine McKinnon's pet project). If you want to trigger gigabytes of pointless noise, try asking this on ThinkAtheist - the person you are after has left this site in disgust and can now be found there. She can rattle of half a dozen 10,000 word diatribes before lunchtime without raising a sweat. But I don't want to play this exercise in relativism because it's guaranteed to degenerate into a spiteful noise-fest.
Comment by Objection on February 27, 2010 at 2:18am
I think what's "worse" would depend on the nature of the murder. Murder could be lesser or worse than rape, in this case. Some examples are: killing resulting from self-defense < rape < killing out of rage.
Comment by Tom on February 27, 2010 at 1:42am
The murdered person can't care- they're dead. The raped person will care for the rest of their life. From the perspective of the victim- and not of the victim's family, friends, etc- rape is the bigger bad.

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