I apologize in advance for my appearant arrogance

Just attended my wife's graduation from university with her second bachelor, this one in science, micro and cellular biology. Scientific method. Evolution. Evidential research. You get the picture. I am sooo proud.

Before she came to town for the graduation, she was involved in an 'exchange of ideas' about evolution with what turns out to be with a young woman from, perhaps, Pigsknuckle Arkansas. After hearing that the young lady said 'we can't prove evolution because we can't run a 4 million year experiment to observe evolution - or not' - my wife wrote a witty, scientifically accurate rebuttal. The forum gave her cheers and loves and all that. I'm so proud!

The young woman couldn't help to reply, and that then it was pile-on the girl from the scientists in that community. Poor girl. I am now sure that those of us who are non-theists have an intellectual advantage over theists because we think. Yup, we're better, well, intellectually anyway.

I'm just a humble (oh sure, you arrogant oaf!) electronics engineer who thinks, and appreciates being with others who likewise think. Call me arrogant, go ahead, I won't disagree. I'm proud of my wife, who hasn't joined me on my crazy train ... yet! Bwoo-haa haa haa haa HAAA

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Comment by Alex Donovan on June 16, 2009 at 11:26pm
Shanika, there's a great website on evolution: www.talkorigins.org
Comment by Will Anderson on June 16, 2009 at 11:13pm
Shanika (hope I pronounced it right),
You are on the right track sticking with the so-called "Dummies" works. All those books are hihly reutable and are very good starter material. To level out the playing field, you may want to take a (community) college course, "Philosophy 100" and find out abut the several different philosophical theories. I feel comfortable being atheist. You, after research and soul-seraching may feel different. It's all up to you. The best part of being secular is respect for other's beliefs while maintaining your own. Thank you so much for responding to my post.
Comment by Will Anderson on June 16, 2009 at 11:03pm
Michael H: It's whet your appetite, and thanks for the referrals. When I met Bertrand Russell in 1968 in San Fransisco (as a demonstrator, just before I went to Viet Nam in the US Navy), he asked 3 of us in a group, "Who's god do you worship to make nuclear war come true?", I commented, "I don't need a god, thank you." He smiled and winked.
'Nuff said.
Comment by Michael Howard on June 16, 2009 at 9:01pm
Just go to youtube and watch DonExodus2, Thunderf00t, potholer54, AronRa. Also, talkorgins.com

This will give you a good working knowledge to wet your appetite for me robust learning.
Comment by Alex Donovan on June 15, 2009 at 2:44pm
Before I even bother getting into a debate with a theist on evolution, I always dispense with the False Dichotomy first.
They seem to want to disprove evolution so badly because they think that if they do, then creationism is automatically true. Unfortunately for them, it doesn't work that way. It's not a dichotomy. There could be any other number of possibilities. For example, both creationism AND evolution could be true (in such a case, the burden of proof would be on them, but at least it eliminates the dichotomy).
Trying to declare creationsim as true solely on the strength of trying to prove evolution false is similar to my saying, "Okay, I can prove conclusively that you're not a dog. Therefore you MUST be a cat."
Comment by Will Anderson on June 15, 2009 at 2:27pm
My wife delivered a short concise essay describing a biologist in Michigan who had watched the development - and evolution - of 38,000 generations of e-coli. Substantive proof of the fundamental premise of evolution theory. That thread went on for over 900 entries where the scientific community delivered an easy to understand explanation of eveolution, and how there is no science in 'creation science'.
Best of all, this happened at a site called ravelry.com, in a social group of knitters. Talk about left and right brainer's!

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