Even if jesus ever even existed in the first place.......

Would he have been the son of god? There is no god so that one is out........would he have been deeply indoctrinated to think he was and was sent here to save the world.....most likely......sad thing to do to a child.....to place something that big on his shoulders......nope I think that if jesus ever did exsist he would have been a kind,loving and compassionate homeless drifter,possibly gay and hated the church priest and doctrine as well as the hypocrites of the times........he certainly would not have supported a government based on hate,greed and control.....he would have been a beautiful humanist who loved the poor and the downtrodden......the son of god? Definitely not........a great man who loved his fellow man........no doubt! For what it's worth......just sayin' Have a wonderful weekend all and peace be with you and yours allways!

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Comment by Sentient Biped on January 28, 2014 at 1:32pm

There have been so many arguments as to whether a historical character, we now call "Jesus", existed.   Some people get really worked up about it. 

 

Here is what Hemant Mehta has to say about it...

 

 

Did the Buddha exist?

Did Mohammed exist?

Did Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon Exist?  

Sorry about all of the wikipedia.  I didn't link to the last 3 because the searches become more and more buried in who has what agenda, who has what pre-formed conceptions.

I don't care much about whether the prophets and religions'  founders can be traced to one or more biological entities.  If they did, fine.  It does not prove any of the religion,  If they did not, there is no way to prove it.

Somewhere I read that the town of nazareth didn't exist at the time of Jesus.  So that kind of blew away "Jesus of Nazareth".  It would be like having "Jesus of Detroit, Michigan" in the year 100 AD.  Still, that doesn't prove there wasn't a re-worked Jesus character who was based on an actual biological Jesus who was named something else and lived somewhere else.

I like what MIndy said.  To the point, he was either bipolar (nothing wrong with that, just speculating) or changed his mind a lot.  The scriptures are not consistent, and he comes off partly as Conan the Barbarian and partly as a lovey hippie.

Comment by Pat on January 27, 2014 at 8:21am

While the historicity is not all that great, there probably was a Jesus - Joshua being his actual name. As to what he was like, who knows? Dennis is correct in that all the various authors were piecing together different accounts, long after he was dead, with a heavy dose of legends and stories borrowed from other cults and traditions thrown in for good measure. Then, all of this was further edited at the Council of Nicea to give Emperor Constantine the type of god he wanted.

None of the originals of the synoptic gospels even exist, so the earliest we have are copies of copies of copies, each leaving out or adding what the transcriber wanted at the time. It would be as though the very first biography of George Washington were written at the time Edison invented the electric light - without the benefit of modern forms of communication.  And, the accepted version of Washington's life finally codified around 2100 A.D. 

Comment by Michael Penn on January 27, 2014 at 6:55am

IF Jesus ever did really exist as a real person we have all of the controversies to deal with in the gospels and the bible as a whole. He simply could not have been loving and wanting war at the same time. He appears to have said so many contradictory things that he would have been a lunatic OR maybe he was made up. The bible writers appear to have taken different themes at different times (or made some of them up) and they strung them all together. Peter's gospel was not even included in the bible because it claimed that Jesus did not suffer on the cross. (oh, we can't have that.) The geneology is messed up, and the resurection stories vary in how many angels, etc. With all of this written many years after Jesus died, it would appear that the writers put into the stories that which they wanted.

Based on a real man of the times, but with many pretenders to Messiahship, the Jesus stories have been greatly borrowed on from other myths before. Whether this would have made any real historical Jesus a homosexual is damned near impossible to say.

Comment by booklover on January 26, 2014 at 5:52pm
The story of Jesus isn't even original, and lots of the things the bible says he said and did were really jerky things.

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