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@Will re: #14 - Men will do anything to get laid. They will even do bad things. Old ugly men that can't get laid will do really bad things for just a little bit of the ol wango tango. Old ugly and no money? What's there left to live for? Screw the world and everyone on it! No, subsidize prostitution and stop very bad things from happening.
To my esteemed visitors. I am looking forward to hearing other peoples thoughts on these topics. However I am not interested in debating off topic or suffering through unrelated hypotheticals on the origins of life. This topic is about worldly matters and assumes the reader has a desire to attain humanity. My desire is to bring our species out of the modern dark ages. Stop child abuse, pollution, rape, theft, greed etc...
This is my offering. It is sincere. If you can prove these ideas to be correct or incorrect via reason and sound intellect; you've done this effort a great deed.
Zeigler, the whole point of the virtual reality hypothetical is to show that even empirical evidence can be doubted. There are plenty of other examples of this as well: people's brains can be and have been directly stimulated to create false impressions. You can give someone the notion that they are hearing sounds that are not there, seeing sights that are not there, tasting and smelling things that are not there. Human senses can be tampered with quite easily, and unless the human was privy to the experiment prior to it being done, they would not know the difference between the stimulated, or virtual reality and the real thing.
So it cannot be said, for example, that the sun absolutely will rise every day. The sun could be a programming loop in your virtual reality. You might be "unplugged" tomorrow to find that there is no sun, or that the sun is obscured behind a blanket of rampant greenhouse gasses, like on Venus.
The only thing an individual cannot doubt is that he or she exists. Existence is whatever has qualia, and doubt can be described, so it is a qualia that requires existence. Thus, the very acting of doubting one's own existence proves it instead. That is where "I think, therefore I am" comes from. But this statement is an affirmation of subjective truth because an individual can still doubt that others and other things exist. If only the self exists, then onyl the self is determining what is real, i.e. subjective truth. I can doubt that the sun exists because I can't prove I'm not in a virtual reality, and I can doubt any other "evidence" presented to me for this same reason.
None of that is new logic. It's been around for a long time, and its an idea that simply cannot be developed any further until, or unless, humans are presented with some other piece of information that cannot be doubted. No one has found that yet, which means we are stuck at the point of subjective knowledge. Do you have any other assertions that cannot be doubted? Can you make any claims that every other sane intellect must agree with? If not, then you cannot logically claim that there is objective truth, and if there is no objective truth then there is no way to measure right, wrong, good, bad or evil. That makes all laws ridiculous because without objective truth, no one has the right to govern someone else's actions. If all we have is subjective truth, then everyone's opinion is equally valid and cannot be undermined by anyone else's. Your laws would only be correct for you. They would only promote your ideas of justice and righteousness, and anyone else on whom they are enforced is being oppressed if they disagree.
I can't break it down any further than that. To me, that's all logically sound. If you have some alternative that disproves my logic I'd be happy to hear it because I don't like the implications of subjective reality any more than you do. I want there to be things that we can all agree are good or bad, I just don't think they exist.
@ John. You hit it right on the money. I AM trying to prove or disprove my own theories or hypotheses. I really am sorry if my words come off as bitter or angry. To me they are words of joy. I will work harder to soften my words. Thank you for your considerations.
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