One argument I commonly come across when talking to my mother about the big bang is that it's an unstable theory since scientists have no idea what caused the big bang in the first place.

I don't know if this is an argument that is prevalent throughout the Christian community, but what I do know is that it is possibly the dumbest one I have heard in a while, even above the ridiculous argument that we can't trust scientists when they say evolution is true or that the world is 14 billion years old because they're all liars who only want to deface Christians around the world!" The argument that we don't know how the big bang started and so therefore renders it invalid is mind-numbing to me. How can anyone even make such a claim and still keep a straight face!? First of all, I could just as easily make the same argument against God. What created him? Is there a God of Gods who just creates miniature versions of himself just because? If so, what created this Mega God? And what created the Mega Mega God, if there is such a thing? I could go on and on, but I won't because that would get us no where.

Secondly, we actually have more evidence for where the big bang came from than you have for where this God of yours came from. Quite a few scientists think that the big bang formed when a universe that came prior to us collapsed in on itself, creating this small, compact, immensely dense ball of matter. This ball of matter then burst outward, creating our current universe. How was the previous universe that collapsed created? We don't know. We're not even sure if this is a true theory, but it sure makes a hell of a lot of sense. The point is, we at least have a clue, which is more than anyone could say about the people who make outrageous arguments about our lack of knowledge.

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Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on January 15, 2014 at 5:37am

I like the theory that it was from two previous universes which both resulted in Black Holes and the Black Holes met in a bar and had sex, err I mean a Big Bang, err, Collided.

And thus produced a baby universe.

You can happily inform your Christian friends and family that the person who devised the Big Bang Theory was a Catholic Priest. Mgr Lemaître, a Belgian Catholic Priest first devised the Big Bang Theory.  So it is a Christian concept, not an Atheist one.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2012/10/03/the-belg...

Bet that will rot their socks!

Comment by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 12, 2014 at 11:15am

We more than just have a clue. We know that the universe has a natural history and supernatural argument is nonsense.

Comment by Future on January 12, 2014 at 11:09am
I run into this argument all the time with religionists. It's comical - no matter how far you whittle down our scientific understanding about the creation of matter, which currently includes how something can literally come from nothing on a quantum scale, they stick to the same circular logic that somehow god had to have arranged for such an event to occur. In other words, the omnipotent, infallible, omnipresent one who could make anything happen at any time, chose to make our existence begin with a precursor that took hundreds of billions of years to incubate our current surroundings.
Comment by Michael Penn on January 12, 2014 at 10:09am

They want to say "god did it" and have that explain everything, but christians today are beginning to be caught in their ideas of creation. They want things both ways and you cannot have things both ways.

First we have creation as in the Bible and book of Genesis, with this mythos heavily weigted down by the timeframe set long ago by bishop Usher. To them it means the world can only be 6000 years old.

Next they want to go into Intelligent Design in a way as to rival the Big Bang and Evolution. Many in the Design movement want to narrow everything down to 6000 years, but some are seeing this differently. Science is creeping in for some, and the Bible idea of creationism is thrown out the window for this Design idea of creationism. Others just want to balance Biblical creation with Intelligent Design creation. Sorry, You cannot have it both ways!

Some christians see all of this paradox as boiling down to how much you believe in god. I see it as how much they believe in bishop Usher. What the christian cannot see is that if our theory proves to be wrong, we simply will get a better model. They do not have this luxury. They have to stick with "god said it, and I believe it." At best, this is very poor reasoning.

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