I guess this is not new news....but I just want to talk shit. Isn't it ironic that in order to keep up with scientific discoveries (hence, reducing the gaps) christians and christian apologists have to keep re-interpreting the bible? I mean there is a group of christians at VCU who actually don't believe in the creation story as literal, however, they tell me that God was only telling them a story that they could understand and that modern western arrogance should not judge the creation story in the bible, it was only godspeak for the ignorant. Of course god could not explain to them the intricacies of evolution and cosmic evolution stemming from the big bang, they were idiots back then.

So basically, God, in his infinite wisdom could not see that within the next 2000 years after the death of christ, that humans would gain enough knowledge to understand or at least try to understand the birth of the universe, and if we do finally conclude that the big bang or the big bounce theory are true, then, we have essentially figured out god's creation formula. I mean seriously, it is arrogant for the christians to try to claim that god was speaking down to the people 2000 years ago. Fucking seriously...... they just can't let go of god...it is just amusing at this poitn.

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Comment by Lone Wolf on October 12, 2008 at 12:45am
Christens do not want to let go of there bible. A person could build a time machine and go back and view the events of history and find that all the events of the bible did not happen and they are not based on any real events and Christens would just say "they are morel story's, there just there to guide us"
Comment by Left of Larry on October 10, 2008 at 4:31pm
an interesting point to ask christians is this...would they be satisfied with this type of reasoning if it was used against them in a murder trial in a court?
Comment by Nancy Spivey on October 10, 2008 at 4:03pm
Perhaps that explains it.
Comment by Left of Larry on October 10, 2008 at 3:24pm
one would think that in this day and age we would be escaping fairy tale explanations for more rational and evolved ones. It's gotten so bad that the pastor of one of these churches explained to me after I questioned him that he can prove god exists without the bible because Romans talks about it. I was like what? I asked him if he realized the circular logic and he said it's ok to talk in circles so long as you're in the right circle. I seriously think it is a psychological disorder.
Comment by Nancy Spivey on October 10, 2008 at 3:09pm
What it all comes down to is that religion explains the unknown, and that is my biggest argument against it. The cavemen feared the thunder, the Egyptians feared eclipses and floods and locusts. So attribute it all to god, right?

As we gain knowledge, there is less need for the biblical or other religious reasoning, thus they have to adapt their understanding of what god "intended".

I cannot understand why bazillions of people fall for this shit, but, hey, that's me.
Comment by Left of Larry on October 10, 2008 at 12:50pm
They simply can't let go... they have to re-interpret the bible. The talking snake story is now sounding a bit funny so they come up with clever stories...just absolutely amazing.
Comment by Daley on October 10, 2008 at 11:44am
"it is just amusing at this point" is exactly right.
The great thing about being on the atheist side is that there is no defense.
We don't have to prove that all of these stories are crap. They do that on their own.
The entertaining part is watching a person dangling from their 'faith' trying to say something that makes sense.
Comment by Buffy on October 10, 2008 at 10:53am
In other words, God couldn't see fit to create humans who were intelligent enough to understand things as they are. He created them so stupid he had to feed them a bunch of ridiculous BS. Now two thousand years later some of them still believe the gobbeldygook and others chide us for rolling our eyes at the ones who do so.

Now where do these people get off claiming said god is omnipotent and perfect, and that he created humans in "his own image"?

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