To both liberals and conservatives; FUCK YOU! Be a human bing and come to the middle!

I was reading the commenrts on a Youtube video by Pat Condell. The video is about the islamification of the UK(specifically the adoption of sharia courts) and there where many stupid comments from stupid people. People calling for a genocide against Muslims, Muslims calling Pat a racist and other stupid stuff. One of the things the stupid people where saying was against liberalism and it got me thinking. What about conservatism? Yes its liberalism that has allowed and even fed the islamification of the UK but at the same time its conservative Islam that has been pushing the islamification of the Europ.

Here in the US we have a problem with conservatism. The right wing conservatives are trying (and succeeding) to push there religious beliefs into the government. Anti-abortion, ant-gay marriage, anti-separation of church and state, pro-death penalty and so on, all based on there religious beliefs. There have even been some saying they want the law to be based on biblical law.
And aggravating the problem is that the liberals in this country are so weak that they let the conservatives turn the word "liberal" into a bad word.

The problem is not just liberalism or conservatism, its both. They both have good and bad quality's and despite what people call them selfs every one is both liberal and conservative. Every conservative has liberal ideas and every liberal has conservative ideas. They both have bad things too them as well. And ether one in extreme is bad but where stuck in a world of extreme liberalism and conservatism.

Thats the problem and thats what we live with. What we need is centrism.

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Comment by Фелч Гроган on October 8, 2008 at 8:15am
And aggravating the problem is that the liberals in this country are so weak that they let the conservatives turn the word "liberal" into a bad word.

The liberals have done more damage to themselves than the Conservatives could ever dream doing to them. The catalog of fringe stupidities committed by a small, unrepresentative proportion of the liberal population overshadows all of the genuine common good that has been done and provides free cannon fodder for the right wing pundits to generate so much noise that all of the good gets drowned out. The liberal majority sits and watches these crackpots in silence, instead of shooting them down for the saboteurs that they are. I highly recommend this to you to shine light on why liberalism is failing, and will continue to fail, for the foreseeable future.

Every conservative has liberal ideas and every liberal has conservative ideas.

That's called small "L" libertarianism.

Thats the problem and thats what we live with. What we need is centrism.

Well thats not going to happen any time soon. Your problem is chronic, not acute. You have allowed wedge politics to become the norm, so much so that most of your population can't remember a time when it wasn't. Everything is "if your not for us, your against us" and "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Civilised discourse is dead, and with it reason is dead. As a member of the rest of the planet that is outside looking in, I alternate between pity for your country and sphinctre clinching terror of your myopic ways dragging the rest of us down with you into your man made hell.

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