What happened to you guys? You were supposed to change the world. You were supposed to bring peace and harmony to the world. Remember Peace, Love and Understanding? I thought that you guys would have gained some control in politics and we would not be fighting the religious right in the year 2012. I thought that your love of “chemistry” would have led to a love for science. I thought that you would have……………………..Never Mind.

 

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Comment by Dave Kilby on August 11, 2012 at 12:01pm

That was me, back in the 60's (and some say still). Even marched at Berkeley. I thought we were going to change the world for the better. Didn't happen that way. Now, a lot of my contemporaries are "Baggers" (aka dumbf**ks). It's never surprised me that people sell out. What's always surprised me, is how cheap.

Comment by Richard Goscicki on August 11, 2012 at 11:52am

Thanks for turning me onto the South Park.  I only saw half of it but found it interesting.  I have a pool party to go to now and I’ll finish it later.    

It was good to hear Isaac Hayes (the chef) again.  Let me tell you he was right in the middle of it.  Wrote the music for Shaft and had some really popular progressive jazz albums.  I think he became a scientologist. 

It’s hard to pin these South Park guys down.  I give them credit for satirizing everybody.  I found the scene with the hippie barfing on the floor, then jumping in the puke and then having dry sex in the mess, a little over the top, although we were protesting “Cleanliness is godliness.”      

Good line:  Cartman says, “Here’s five joints and a guitar,” to keep them happy as he slams the door on them. 

Turned around it becomes:  “Here’s a miniature golf game and a Martha Stewart catalogue of plastic ornaments. 

 

Comment by Steph S. on August 11, 2012 at 11:21am

Gotta love SouthPark - I'll go and watch it after I eat lunch. Thanks James.

Comment by James Yount on August 11, 2012 at 11:19am

Southpark did an episode about hippies that, while exagerated and for comedy, makes a lot of good points and even addresses some of the arguments that you've made Richard....
http://allsp.ch/l.php?id=e127

Comment by Richard Goscicki on August 11, 2012 at 10:37am

James, speaking as a hippie in the middle of the movement, I wouldn’t say we were into “free love” as much as human intimacy less prohibited and frowned on.  As a biology teacher at the time, I considered sex a wonderful gift of nature, a serendipity to be cherished, not dirty or shameful as taught in Catholic school. 

As far as pot goes, we weren’t out to solve the world’s problems, just have a good time and have fun.  MJ helps decondition the baneful indoctrination of materialism and consumerism which is still causing much suffering and damage among humans and the environment.  Smoke a joint and suddenly you won’t care if your luxury car has “genuine Corinthian leather.” Take a poke and you won’t feel superior to me if I’m not wearing designer jeans and bling. 

But that’s bad for business.  I’d propose that’s why mj is illegal. 

 

Comment by Steph S. on August 11, 2012 at 10:14am
James has it right.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on August 11, 2012 at 10:06am

Good question and good topic.  I was there in NYC when Woodstock was presented but couldn’t go because I had to prepare class work.  But I was there in spirit.  I was heavy into most of the singers, especially Ritchie Havens and Janice Joplin.  When I was going to NYU,  I used to see Ritchie perform at the Café Waa in Greenwich Village, a virtual unknown at the time.  He was so talented I knew he was going to make it. 

The dissolution of the movement was one of the worst disappointments of my life.  I guess George Carlin had it right:  we sold out for pork belly futures and automatic pasta machines.  Rescinding the draft had a lot to do with it.  We couldn’t have lived with that level of acrimony indefinitely.

I went to a couple of parties with Abbie Hoffman and we got high together.  I still say ‘Gnuck, gnuck” (enough, enough) when I watch the TV news.  Abbie, how could you be so stupid as to sell coke to a DEA agent?  Breaks my heart just thinking about it.  You were smarter then that.  I remember Abbie’s line when President Eisenhower died in 1969, “He went to that great golf course in the sky.”  It’s still the same class differential bullshit. 

Here’s a good example of what it was like:  Picture a hippie party in Corona, Queens.  Everybody high, hash floating around like wafers of Hershey’s chocolate.  A few freaks from St. Marks passed out on the couch.  Fast young ladies grinding away to the Fifth Dimension. 

A pothead yells whipping out an LP from its album cover, “Stop the music, stop music.  You gotta listen to this dude who’s been workin’ the jazz clubs in the Village.  He calls himself Lord Buckley.  Make way for THE NAZZ

 

 

 

Comment by James Yount on August 11, 2012 at 9:59am

Their premise that free love and pot as the means to solve the worlds problems was flawed.

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