I don't remember the districts ( I do know one of the principals had a kids TV show though or something along the those lines). It was in the 80's. It did not work on me either - I have always been a bit rebellious."
I was a student in Colorado and I was on the receiving end of a paddling by 2 different principals at 2 different schools. So, yes, corporal punishment did occur in Colorado schools ( at least in my experience) . I am not sure whether or…"
"Thanks for your response Limber. I would like to see the studies that prove your opinion about AA being more effective for certain types of people. But, if you don't have the time to link them that is cool too. Also see the thread that felch…"
"With all due respect Limber Lightfoot.
I don't think AA is a very effective a way to address maladjusted behaviors such as chronic alcohol abuse. There are a few studies that have been done that have provided evidence that AA is not much more…"
"What about SMART recovery: http://www.smartrecovery.org/. AA is not the only game in town. SMART is secular, it seems to work for people with addictions and it does not require any belief in a higher power or god."
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. for saying that.
I am one of those people that you are describing where AA was a personality destroying disaster.
I can't tell you how passionately angry I am about the years of my life that were wasted…"
I applaud you for your abstinence. But, did AA really help you stay sober, or did you do it yourself?
From what I am reading of about your experience you thankfully did not buy into the hardcore AA line.
Unfortunately I did. This was…"
Well actually AA does claim to cure alcoholism and it also says that it doesn't at the same time (flim flam) - lol. In the Big Book in the first pages it states We are fellowship of men and women who have recovered from a seemingly…"
"Jason, What you say is true to some degree. Yes it is decentralized. Each group has autonomy and it was the founder Bill Wilson called - a benevolent anarchy. This also presents problems as well as the central organization will not stop abuses in…"
Under the influence of alcohol-treatment evangelists, courts, employers, and parents are forcing people into 12-step programs for the slightest of reasons.
"AA is a cult. I have been in and out of it for over 20 years. I have been in genuine cult as well and the similarities are remarkable. I won't argue with you about it either because obviously we have a difference of opinion.
AA does more harm…"
Nice photo. Andromeda, right?
Actually, it was astronomy that led me into science and away from new age woo way back in the early 1980s. It turns out that reality is more interesting than anything I can make up. And I'm really good at making stuff up.
We are pleased to meet you here among the sensible, rational people of this world.
This is a fantastic meeting place with its 14,500 bright people like you who recognise religion for the superstition and brainwashing fraud that it is---
and that God and gods are nothing but fictions wasting space in people's heads.
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