""If God took you up on the mountain and told YOU to sacrifice your child to him, I'm sad to have to be the one to tell you this, but you never would have had the faith to trust him and plunge that knife down into your child."
I am so happy to find atheists, as we all share the same thought, and all of us all over the world are one, as all of us are surrounded and targeted by the evil religious powers, and with their evil intents of religious slavery, tyranny, exploitation aiming at controlling, and governing the independent and the enlightened and the illuminated free thought and intellect.
Well, looks like we have a lot in common. I did not begin with a life of religiosity though. Being born in a family of atheists, I was always an atheist but India is deeply religious so I have been in close contact with religious people of all sorts. I think this has led me to appreciate atheists and agnostics a lot more. ;-)
I just read your statement under "about me" and agree with your views completely. It's good to know other people are out there who can see the obvious patterns in all "religions." I am tribally Jewish, but rejected the organized aspects of this and all other religions really early on in my life. On occasion I have revisited the temple and still find the entire concept and the atmosphere impossibly narrow. Call me a pantheist, individualist, humanist. But man, it's hard to be out here on my own in this day and age of religious fervor. Everybody has a "church" they go to! I guess in the end people are just scared to be alone, or to have ideas and beliefs that go against their culture's general grain.
truly enjoyed reading your statement under "about me"...in my journey i have learned that it is a far greater thing to convert folks to rationalism and facing the true reasons for their belief than to work toward prosyletizing for a socio-political construct that has only really survived for reasons other than winning souls. i have yet to become desensitized to the abject idiocy of christianity. every time i write or talk about it, i cringe.
Paul: I just took some time to look at all the quotes you have in your slide show. I am very impressed! I thought I had found all the best quotes for my book, but you have a few I have not seen before. Wish I had seen them before I finished the book.
Paul: Great to hear from you. Sounds like we have traveled similar paths. I wish I had arrived at the conclusions you have much earlier, but glad I arrived, nevertheless. Have read the book? If so, please leave a review on Amazon. We are just starting the publicity for the book and are getting some good reviews. I am also very interested in your response to the book's concepts since you say you could have written it yourself. There is still much to write and explore in this area. I am thinking of my next book and will probably include more personal stories in it. I would love to hear more from you. If you haven't gotten the book yet, we can't seem to keep it in stock at Amazon, but you can order it directly from our website www.thegodvirus.net.
as far as 'justice', its only a word defined in millions of different ways -- AGAIN, AGREED. IT DEPENDS ON WHICH SIDE OF THE FENCE YOU ARE ON.
my point was however that men may rape and molest as they please and then have to face MALE judges who dictate laws created by MALES. budgets and legislations are not prioritized to protect women and girls from the most common abuses. money and energy is spent on war toys. -- ALL VERY TRUE, INDEED.
women leaders would prioritize different things and would erradicate the abuse of women and girls by any and all means necessary. -- AGREED, THEY PROBABLY WOULD.
i cannot see how there is any doubt in your mind that feminists in power would do this. -- I GUESS I DON'T DOUBT THAT THE FEMINISTS PROBABLY WOULD, BUT THE PALIN TYPES WOULD NOT. I'VE HEARD RELIGIOUS WOMEN JUSTIFY MALE DOMINATION BEFORE.
and i dont 'want' men to suffer under the rule of women. i said that if, as you say is possible, women become tyrants in turn, i would prefer that men suffer instead of women and little girls. -- OKAY, I SEE.
as far as the average american male, they make the same arguments as men have for millennia: -- I BET THEY DO.
that men are stronger and therefore belong in power; that men are ruled by logic rather than emotion (which is ridiculous) -- BY LOGIC? HA!
they dont see a problem with the way things are -- NO, THOSE WHO ARE CORRUPT AND SELFISH AND CRUEL OFTEN DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING. IT IS ONLY SENSITIVE SOULS, THOSE WHO SEEK JUSTICE, AND THE FAIR-MINDED THAT EVER HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING. SUCH IS THE WORLD, I GUESS! :(
THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DISCUSS WITH ME PAUL, I APPRECIATE IT.
Also I don't see how there is justice in "if women then chose to become even worse than their male predecessors and make men suffer under their rule, i would much prefer this to women suffering under the rule of men."
To me, I don't wany anyone to suffer or be disenfranchised, and I have a hard time understanding why you would be okay with that. Is it just about men having their comeuppance?
Also, I'm curious. How does the average American male respond to your arguments you are presenting here? I would imagine you get a lot of flack for it, and a lot of resistance.
Sorry it took me so long to repsondd to you. You said "a sytem that makes it impossible for the few to make the many do something that would harm the many."
To me, that sounds like politics as usual, and I think Republicans are especially adept at convincing their followers to support ideas that are not in their best interest.
However, I don't put as much faith in female leaders as you seem to be able to do, e.g. " would prefer that women had authority, whatever they may choose to do with it.", as I think they can be just as fallable as men. I'll grant that they would do things differently, but when you say "would they create legislature that called for gang rapes of women in the streets? hardly.", and I agree, but men don't have laws that say that is okay either. Though I'll admit that Middle Eastern countries are screwed up for killing women that have been raped. Surely women would change that tradition.
Paul wrote: "for example when male world leaders have disagreements, they start wars in which children are killed and women are raped. female leaders would be very hesitant to do this."
In nature, the male sex is often defending the female sex and offspring. The female sex doesn't do it because it's not psychologically or physically disposed to be able to --- usually. But there again, because it doesn't have the disposition, and therefore the experience, its defensiveness can be more grisly and incounsellable than the male's.