"There are some very good recent examples of religion subjugating the local culture. One of my theology professors was fond of telling the stories about Seventh-day Adventist missionaries going into an African village and noticing that the women were…"
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Dustin Williams replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
Joseph P replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"But as for women being property, that wasn't always the case -- again, going back to those North Atlantic islands, before the imposition of Christianity and Roman culture in general, women were on much more equal footing with men.
This pretty…"
mxyzptlk replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"Thanks -- these are all thought-provoking responses. I wanted to respond to each of these, but I think it'd make more sense to do this all at once.
Supernatural justifications seem to me to arrive out of the same sort of steps Louis mentioned,…"
Louis replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"Yes, it's an odd kind of chicken/egg dilemma.
I can't recall where I heard this first but a model for things like this suggested the following on the development of tradition:
First) An event occurs and an action is performed in response…"
Joseph P replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"Local holy figures were raised into the Pantheon of the godly - Our lady of Guadalupe.
Actually, I was confused about this one, myself, as little as a month or two ago. Our Lady of Guadalupe is Mary. The Guadalupe part is a manifestation of her,…"
Jim DePaulo replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"Introduced religions would have little chance to take hold in a culture whose traditions clashed with the doctrine. The Catholic Church has adapted to local custom and patched it into doctrine with relative ease over the centuries. Easter (from Isis…"
Joseph P replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"I think perhaps Confucianism didn't need the additional baggage of supernatural justification because it was layered onto an existing system which already had that reinforcement. Ancient China and Japan got by with a system of emperor-worship.…"
Joseph P replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"In other words, if we went back in time well before Islam or Christianity or Judaism made its way from the Eastern Mediterranean over to Northern India, would we find tribal customs that declared there could be no rape in a marriage?
Certainly, the…"
Aaron S. (USA) replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage in the group Atheist News
"This is a really interesting thought-track to take. I don't really have much to add at the moment, but I would also ask why supernaturalism tends to get caught up in these rules in most societies, but not necessarily in others - Confucianism,…"
mxyzptlk added a discussion to the group Atheist News
Responding to Ep. 37 on No Rape in Marriage
I don't really know if this is the right place to post this comment/question, because it's not really news, but it's related to something Joe brought up in episode 37, so fuck it. If it's the wrong spot, point me in the right direction.So:I wanted to respond to Joe's point about wife-beating rapist Muslims. First, let me preface this by acknowledging none of that behavior is ever okay. But where I get confused is how much of this is religious-based and how much of it is culturally-based…See More
Taran Meyer replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Question about hair and evolution in the group Godless Anthrogeeks
"Very belatedly, I'd agree that this probably evolved as a result of sexual selection and display. Long, ever-growing hair requires looking after of some kind, whether cutting, grooming, plastering with mud, or twisting into dreadlocks, and…"
Jared Lardo replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Question about hair and evolution in the group Godless Anthrogeeks
"All I can figure is that it, having come about as the result of mutations, was attractive, so that those with the ability to display their health and nutrition as hair allows, were sexually selected-for.
I'm no geneticist; so, I haven't…"
mxyzptlk replied to Aberingi's discussion Do we need an Universal Atheist Symbol? in the group Atheist News
"That symbol looks far too close to a forestry symbol that I can't find at the moment, but know I've seen on orienteering and military maps. It also looks kinda like mma/K1 fighter Alistair Overeem's symbol (which looks like the…"
ɟǝןıx dǝʇɹɐɹ replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Question about hair and evolution in the group Godless Anthrogeeks
"I guess that women that have very long hair took care of it and cut the split ends. I'm trying to remember any primitive society that has members with very long hair that they step on it. The Africans could have very long hair and still be all…"
mxyzptlk replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Question about hair and evolution in the group Godless Anthrogeeks
"Heh -- that's just what my wife tells me. Maybe it just seems like that after losing split ends. Mine's cropped anyway.
But I'm still not sure why we grow hair like vines, and other primates seem to have the sense to have hair that…"
ɟǝןıx dǝʇɹɐɹ replied to mxyzptlk's discussion Question about hair and evolution in the group Godless Anthrogeeks
"cutting hair will make it grow faster
That's just a myth. There are no receptors in the hair that signal to the hair roots that the hair is cut.
If you don't believe this, I would add that my final paper when I graduate medicine was…"
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- At 2:38am on September 16, 2009,
heretic said… - Dude. Next time I go to Dingle (western Ireland) I'm taking you as my translator. All the flippin road signs are in GAELIC. AAGH (LoL!)
- At 12:56pm on August 14, 2009,
Dallas the Phallus said… - Thank you for joining LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS. I look forward to your contributions.
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- At 2:36pm on June 17, 2009,
moJoe said… - Thank you, sir. I am not much of one either. But I am glad we are pals now. You are hilarious.
- At 8:36am on May 11, 2009, Dallas the Phallus said…
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- At 12:48pm on May 8, 2009,
Bill E said… - Interesting name. Are you the whole rabbit, or just unconnected rabbit parts (or perhaps temporal rabbit slices)?
- At 6:20pm on May 4, 2009,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… - Welcome to Atheist Nexus with its thousands of good friends.
Do join groups like the busy discussion group “ORIGINS” (Origins: Universe, Life, Humans, Evolution, Religion..... ).
I have been running a long discussion (over 50 posts) there about being "Proud to be Atheist" because we should all be inwardly proud, and many of us outwardly loudly proud,
seeing that atheists and humanists hold the intellectual high ground over the pathetic nonsense of the irrational, superstitious god believers.
Terry Meaden
- At 4:45am on May 4, 2009, moJoe said…
- Best. avatar. ever.
I can tell that you are going to fit in around here.
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