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Camels and the bible.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Sentient Biped Feb 15. 10 Replies

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Wild Bill of America

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I don't know how or when I came across good-ol'-Bill, but I just can not get enough of his videos. Every video is full of every logical fallacy a philosophy teacher could ever dream up. I sometimes…Continue

Should God be tried, in absentia.

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When I listen to atheists preach the bible, which is very common these days, they use the same biblical stories as theists, but the meaning taken from these stories is very different for the…Continue

World Blasphemy laws.

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I was reading through some posts at my local Atheist web site, from which I am banned, and came across this interesting article.…Continue

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"You are may be right. The Australian camel is a feral animal just like the dingo. The later is still a dog having the genes of a dog. However, we aren't told how archeologists identify ancient domestic camels from wild camels.…"
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MB replied to leveni's discussion Camels and the bible.
"I don't think you could use Aussie Wild camels to study in this context as they are descendents of domestic camels set free after being brought over from their native ranges. As such they will show the genetics of domesticated camels and not…"
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MB replied to leveni's discussion Camels and the bible.
"This isn't the "nail in the coffin (crucifix?)" argument it has been made out to be. I doubt a bible thumping theist is going to even stop to think twice about it when confronted with it. At best it may serve when added to a host of…"
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Pat replied to leveni's discussion Camels and the bible.
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  • There is no god, there never has been there never will be. 
  • Because there is no god there are no religions.
  • Because there are no religions there are no Jews, no Muslims and no Christians
  • My philosophy: Everything is my fault.

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The Brothers Karamazov

Posted on April 10, 2013 at 12:31am 0 Comments

I started reading Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamazov the other day and came across the following. It was spoken by Smerdyakov (pg.203):

Oh, nothing. God created light on the first day, and the sun, moon, and stars on the fourth day. Where did the light come from on the first day?"

Just thought I'd put it up here in case somebody ever wanted to use it.

My first Possessed member of my bible study group.

Posted on March 1, 2013 at 1:27am 2 Comments

I've been going to church now for 2 years, initially to help out after the weekly BBQ, washing the dishes and sometimes turning the community compost heap. Then I started talking to a harmless retired guy, who has alzheimer's, and this turned into a bible study group, run by a pastor. During the bible group, I mostly sit back and listen and comment when asked for an opinion.

Everything was fine until this week, when we started to talk about spirits. Previously we had only ever talked…


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At 1:38am on October 18, 2013, Napoleon Bonaparte said…

Thanks for telling me about  Du'a Khalil Aswad. It's a terrible shame.

I'm from Sydney but have lived in London for a long time.

At 7:51pm on October 24, 2011, Sassan K. said…
Hi, sorry I don't know how to read or write farsi but I will use the translator! You are Iranian I assume? And no, I haven't heard of "FM2030", what is that?
At 7:41pm on October 8, 2011, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…
I had a drain put in to treat glaucoma and got a new lens.Slowly improving. Thanks for you concern.
At 2:50pm on October 6, 2011, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…
It's nice to hear from you again. I've recently had surgery on my right eye, and won't be able to see clearly for a few weeks. Have to take it easy. How's the weather in Australia? We've had a warmer than usual season so far.
At 2:06pm on October 5, 2011, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…
At 9:27am on April 16, 2011, Mai said…
Work, home life, etc.  It's all the little things.  I was just reading your 'About me' section.  You're right about one thing.  My philosophy: Everything is my fault.  That is so true.  Some people sit back and bitch and whine about life not going their way (kinda like me right now), and they never do anything to change it.  I've decided that everything's gonna be my fault for a while.  At least until I'm done sitting in this hole.  B l a h .  I'm done ranting now.
At 11:03am on April 5, 2011, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

I was never convinced by the argument that Al Gore has a conflict of interest so assume he's lying. Profit drives Global Warming Denial, such as the oil and coal industries and Koch Bros. They live in glass houses. They started with profit and then got into the Global Warming Denial business. Al Gore started out concerned about the planet, and then he got into the Green Investments business. He put his money where his mouth is. Isn't it hypocrisy to say you're worried about the planet but continue your economic life "business as usual"?

At 11:09pm on April 4, 2011, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

Your comparison of taking-Climate-Destabilization-seriously to evangelical religion is interesting. When I saw Al Gore doing an Inconvenient Truth lecture, it didn't resemble a Billy Graham impersonation at all. You claim that similarities to Billy Graham's technique actually made people lose interest quickly. You also say people lost interest because they didn't understand the proof. This is like Joe the Plumber winning out over actual facts in politics, because people easily understand concrete personal anecdotes but get insulted when somebody tries to "lecture them with numbers." The thing is, many religions succeed exactly because the congregants don't "understand the proof." They affirm a grab bag of contradictory beliefs. Religious converts don't "understand proofs" and they do listen. They listen with their "gut," their "heart," rather than their head. So perhaps Australian culture differs seriously from that of the US. If Gore sounded too much like a zealot to be taken seriously by Australians, in the US right wing zealotry calls out to  hearts and minds with a more powerful voice than all of us who are concerned about Climate Destabilization.

At 11:55am on March 31, 2011, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

I agree that the military are enormous uncounted contributors of greenhouse gases. Others have written on that. However, giving up and trying to adapt is not an option. Peter D Ward says that if we burn all of our fossil fuel, the Venus Syndrome is likely, and if we also burn the tar sands, it's guaranteed. In the Venus Syndrome, greenhouse gases increase the global temperature, causing water to evaporate from the oceans. Water vapor is itself a greenhouse gas, so there's a positive feedback. The planet gets hotter and hotter until oceans boil away. Eventually carbon bakes out of the ground too, and you get a planet similar to Venus. Absolutely sterile. It never fails to amaze me that science-oriented people have short horizons when they contemplate the future. So many only look a few centuries ahead. Dr. Ward is an exception.

At 8:39pm on March 28, 2011, TNT666 said…

Because there is no god there are no religions

This line I've been hearing more lately. But then there are also 'godless' religions like Buddhism and Humanism. I've never had any religion, I despise all religions, not only the gods or non-gods they defend (not to same degree of course, but still, all of them). Religions, to me, are but philosophical and managerial doctrines used by powerful humans to enslave lesser humans. Some days on these sites I get frustrated enough that I want to start my own atheist website, without humanists and agnostics and Buddhists and deists an whatever other spiritual mumbo jumbo weak sheople thrive upon. If growing the ranks of atheists means being inclusive of all supernatural minded people out there, then I say lets shut up and not grow the ranks anymore. The more I read about agnostics, the more my sliding scale bar comes close to falling off the end! I used to be tolerant but now IMO if someone is even .001% sure of god, they're theists! Let's send agnostics back to where they belong, among theists, an infinitely teensy theist but a theist nonetheless!


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