"No. This was just another example (obviously not very good as you seem to misunderstand it). I'm not arguing on the basis of reproduction at all. Every time I make a comment, somebody wants to misunderstand it and assume that I don't want…"
"...we see a legal recognition of two people previously..." You are doing it again. You are using a higher category shift to justify something in the sub-category. What we in fact see is "a legal recognition of a man and a…"
It's not my argument. I was arguing against a point ad absurdum. Talking about a man and a woman as "people" getting married is correct and valid. But already a leap or shift in category or hierarchy has taken place. We can…"
"@ Buffy: Thank you for the links which were very informative. The first link speaks of same sex or same gender unions, not of same sex marriages, which is the point I am making. The second article describes other cultures where we can expect…"
No, I am not implying bestiality or any negative innuendoes. I'm not denying a whole population their rights. I am for gay "marriages" but I would prefer to see a different terminology. No more, no less."
""The origin of marriage was pretty much a man owning exclusive sexual access to one or more women."
Exactly. Not access to one or more men. And what do you mean by "pretty much"?
"... should we return to that? The husband…"
"I have already conceded on the word "rape" so I think we can bury this bone. Marriage, in my opinion, has nothing to do with religion. In some countries the church or religious marriage counts for nothing at all. As an example Germany…"
"I concede your first point. "rape" was simply hyperbole. Obviously it is not good to use if false implications are drawn and clarity of language is lost. I'm not scared of homosexuals. I have very good friends who are so oriented and…"