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boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"chill, denial wont help you. i know youre having a hard time figuring out what im saying, thats obvious -- thanks for your honesty anyway. "sorry, pal," it is. the messenger of god is divine by definition; perhaps not the one you would…"

May 5, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"you believe in a god, andrew?"

May 5, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"lol, youre so riled up youre imagining arguments and defending tidbits im not even questioning. no one is talking about what messiah has come to mean. you -- you, matt -- posted that the messiah was believed to be a "messenger of Jahweh,"…"

May 5, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"theres no need for a distinction. whether god, son of god, or messenger for god (yahweh), thats still divine."

May 5, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"pesky dictionaries. i know messiah is compatible with divine in this century; this century being the context in which i use the word. i tend to adhere to present day norms -- just cant be bothered to observe conventions of the first century im…"

May 4, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

""No, that is false: declaring yourself a Messiah did not entail divinity..." no, its not false -- try a dictionary. "still on-going by the time..." as in, people regarded him as a god before his mention by those historians?"

May 4, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"messiah would still fall under divine. but anyway, later than what exactly? later than the period in which he was mentioned by historians?"

May 4, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"i know enough. and i didnt make any assumptions on what you would or wouldnt challenge. youre not talking about divinity -- thats not a we. divinity later attributed? later relative to what milestone, matt? im not interested in winning any points,…"

May 4, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"more like an article of skepticism. warlords, rulers, etc. these have plenty of precedent to make ones perspective amenable to credence, and they dont connote divinity like jesus does. despite this, i doubt most of these same atheists you accuse of…"

May 4, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"the answer is yes, according to some accounts -- not a categorical yes."

May 3, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"sure it is; the only reason his existence is of any importance is because he was supposedly the son of god and had these magical powers. we wouldnt be having this discussion if it werent for that. i can find jesus in the kitchen of a mexican…"

May 3, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"the difference is jesus is only remembered because of the supernatural properties ascribed to him. there are people named jesus, martyrs, devoutly religious people to spare -- no one really cares about that. things and people that dont exist dont…"

May 3, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jennifer W's discussion Do you believe Jesus existed?

"i dont think he existed. and without having all the magical powers n being the son of god, the fact that some guys name was jesus means nothing, really -- plenty of living guys named jesus right now. he probably didnt exist at all, people just want…"

May 3, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Anthony Hall's discussion Why should an atheist care about the environment?

"because its usually in ones best interest to care about others."

May 2, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Jezzy's discussion What Is Chivalry, And Why Should We Care?

"women, being weaker, need to be assisted by big strong men. thats the idea, i think."

May 2, 2010

boris urshugur replied to Christopher Peter Robinson's discussion Why are so many atheists pro-abortion-rights?

"because theyre more reasonable than theists."

May 2, 2010

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At 6:09pm on May 2, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…: Hi Boris, and welcome to this friendly meeting place where we recognise--like you do as an atheist--that gods are all phoney and religions are cunning frauds used to control people;
and how tragic and inexcusable it is that women and minorities have been oppressed these last two thousand years and more.

Terry Meaden
founder of the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Evolution, Darwin..." with its 260 discussion topics. We invite you to join us.
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin