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Guns/Second Amendment
Started this discussion. Last reply by Holly Blake Apr 1, 2012. 311 Replies 0 Likes
I know we're all different thinkers, but I'm just curious if there is a consensus view among atheists regarding firearms? Continue
Greetins from the Sunflower State (That's Kansas)
Started Nov 23, 2010 0 Replies 0 Likes
My name is Tyler. I am glad I found this site. It seems to be a fairly active forum. I look forward to gaining some insight from some fellow non-believers.I grew up in a secular household by two…Continue
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TNT666 replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"Free speech cages... yep, that's the only kind of free speech we know in Canada. And even those aren't 100% safe."
Dogly replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"Louis, when you say that the 2nd amendment isn't incorporated, did you mean it was not ratified by every state? This is news to me, if true. I thought that the entire constitution had been ratified by all the states that then existed.…"
Tyler J. Jenkins commented on joeyess's group Kansas Atheists
"I've been thinking about throwing together an atheist/freethinker/secular/humanist/etc... group in or around the Ottawa/Lawrence area. Nothing formal. Just kind of get together and discuss issues, books, and concerns. Any suggestions or ideas?"
Park Bierbower replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"I know about the difference between melee and projectile~ I'm trained (at an intermediate level) to teach hand to hand combat in the military.
btw, melee weapons don't require skill to use; neither does a gun. Its not…"
thomas smith replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"LET ME MAKE IT SIMPLE, very few people will engage hand to hand , the hand gun allows anyone who get the drop on you to have their way.
the had gun is unique because most other hand weapons require close interaction , some level of strength…"
Park Bierbower replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"Sir, no one has at any point on this thread advocated more guns. No one has advocated everyone armed. You really should read the previous discussion here, because the more adamant you are, the less sense you make.…"
Susan Stanko replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"more guns are not the answer
I challenge you to find anyone in this thread who claims that it IS the answer."
thomas smith replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"folks, think about it, , the escalation that you have proposed, i.e. everyone armed will result in exactly this scenario. of course there will be anomlys, where the robber is overpowered , and probably some would be robbers will change…"
Park Bierbower replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"That example reflects in no way the reality of armed robberies, and is in fact illogical if the purpose is to take someone's possessions without being caught or stopped. try again please."
TK replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"Willful ignorance is not a strong position for debate. Explain Park's situation then? He's still alive, his would be muggers/robbers are still alive. Why the anomaly?"
thomas smith replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
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no, the first person to rob is whoever comes down the street when no one else is looking.!! Unless you walk around all the time with your gun in your hand., the aggressor always has the advantage. the scenario is simple; I shoot you …"
TK replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"This type of defensive firearm use happens a LOT. It doesn't get sensationalized, because a) no one got shot, and b) it's usually not reported to police."
TK replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"I am thinking logically. You know the logical first person to rob? The person I know who doesn't have a gun. It's an equalizer, not a guarantee. If you enjoy being a target, then so be it. Don't make me a…"
TK replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"Yeah, the police. It is a separated statement. The text: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." It recognizes…"
Park Bierbower replied to Tyler J. Jenkins's discussion Guns/Second Amendment
"the same. There were three. Because I was aware of my surroundings, I got my weapon out before they could get theirs out. They saw I had it and backed off cuz they knew I'd be able to shoot before they would."
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- At 6:23pm on November 24, 2010,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… - Hi, and a friendly welcome to Tyler J. Jenkins.We are pleased to meet you here among the sensible, rational people of this world.
This is the great Nexus with its thousands of bright people like yourself who recognise religion for the superstition and brainwashing fraud that it is---and that gods exist only as fictions inside people's heads.
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- At 1:11am on November 24, 2010,
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