I think there are some elements and conditions determined by nature, and all choices based on whimsy within it are not completely free, but limited by nature. While the element of choice is still present, there is always some…"
"You seem to be under the impression that one either can have full control, or no control at all. This is not so. One cannot control the universe, but they can learn to control themselves to some extent. I would certainly hope no one assumes that…"
"We would probably be destroyed, as we could not have picked worse representatives for our race. The fundamentalists would make them think of us as little more than cattle... cattle too violent and hateful to be allowed to exist."
"Determinism has little value as sufficient data is almost never in evidence. Also, even if it were true, we would all still be left with the illusion of free will regardless. However, those using it to remove culpability in such a way as to posit…"
"Perhaps, but they would not have to play nice for that either. If they view us as primitive, as we do other animals, they would not have to care how the study was done. Do we ask monkeys or labrats if they want to vivisected and studied? Why should…"
"Lets see, the universe is 13.77 ± 0.059 billion years old according to our best estimates, and our solar system has been around about 4.5 billion. Humans have been around for what, about a couple of hundred thousand years or so? I really do…"
"It is not reasonable to assume that they will be superior in any way but technologically. Having bigger, better toys, does not necessarily mean anything more than just that. However, if we learn we are the "elder race", we might as well…"
"The hope is that any sufficiently advanced civilization that is capable of such travel would be older, so people also assume that it would be more... Well "mature" for lack of a better word...
There certainly no reason to assume that it…"
"I will only read it if you promise it is an entirely rational and reasonable argument for religion being more that wishful thinking, otherwise it is probably just another variant of arguments that had already been debunked eons ago."
"Yes, there will even be some who deny such a discovery, even if introduced to them. But you already know that, don't you. I am sure you are fully aware how many demented, delusional, purposefully ignorant people there really are in this world.…"
"Most people have some sort of conscience, but most people have also been in a situation were they knowingly did something wrong. I am sure we could compile a huge list of those things, and even all the justifications and excuses we all had for doing…"
"Determinism should by its very nature imply predictability, when there is enough information to predict something. I literally have no idea what you will do next, I do know what I will do next(barring some unforeseen circumstance that I am currently…"
"Most atheists are agnostic, they do not claim to know that no flavor of god could possibly exist anywhere at any time. We simply do not have faith in any flavor of god. If a new religion popped up that worshiped wooden spoons, we could probably…"
"Some may pretend to believe in doctrine, others were brought up in it so forcefully that it becomes their whole reality. They in turn set out to bring others into it, usually forcefully, and demonize any that do not ascribe to their flavor of dogma."
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