"Thanks for being so amicable while trying to clarify your point. I probably did miss your drift a little - it's easy to do with a toddler tugging on my pant leg. I did think you were comparing men and women in the last sentence and I very much…"
"Okay, here's a thought. As a woman - who grew up in the home of a mentally-ill single-mother (I had half a parent instead of two) I was too busy getting myself an education and trying to figure out how to have the children I wanted and still…"
"That pretty much sums me up. I don't care about arguing about "reality" and evidence for god. I care about changing the system that favors Christianity in modern society over other religions, and that favors the religious over…"
"For the past few months I've participated in the SSU at my university. I'm happy to report that, at least in that club, there's a pretty even distribution though at some meetings the women out number the men. Right now more of the…"
"IMO there is something that can shed a new light on things...
This idea that church is a social network always riled me up a bit. Churches do charity work and networking as a MARKETING ploy in order to increase their numbers. It is a form of…"
"You might be right - turning atheist was easy, but finding out that my whole xtian social network had disappeared overnight was really hard and it cost me years to build a replacement. Loyalty is created when you help someone, I think that is true,…"
"This is complete conjecture on my part, but it seems that women have more to benefit from joining an institution that provides social support services. And Churces do exactly that. Atheism is based on non-belief, critical thinking,…"
"I find the inherent cost of this conversation is mixing how religious mores have "taught" women to be, versus how we evolved to be. I value evolution much more than I value cultural mores.
I was not raised in these religious mores, so I…"
"This is a terrific post - with lots of thoughts going into the post and the comments. I have an example which may or may not be relevant to the coversation.
I live in Texas, where being a liberal atheist female can, on any given occasion,…"
"It's not logical at all. Us vaginas have been conditioned by society to behave that way. There is no realism to "spirituality" than there is to gods. And it really annoys me that us atheists can continue to propagate these patriarchal…"
"Funny see, spirituality no more has any claim to reality than religion does. For me it's all about this: we are TAUGHT, from the earliest age, to obey, because we are born with a vagina, nothing more nothing less."
"IMHO this 'community' stuff is the consequence, rather than the cause. Once women were pressed into submissive status, they turned to each other for consolation, comfort, and belonging. Previous to patriarchal religions, women could relate…"
"Skr-one human, you said
..most women need to be a part of a community. I wish that we could create non wow new age or religious community,... [emphasis mine]
Part of creating a community is emotional bonding. I don't think it's going…"
"I came to feminism and atheism about the same time, as an undergraduate, mostly in my junior year. They were parallel processes. There was more of a dialogue about god on my campus. The feminism came from reading."
"Women have been, historically, systematically excluded from math and science. I'm old enough to remember the first women "allowed" into various so-called "non-traditonal" fields of study. I think one of the only ways…"
Greetings, Taran! I'd like to invite you to a group where we talk about anything on our minds, Hang With Friends. :D My husband and I were common law for 10 years, then he lost his job and we got married so he could get insurance on mine. ;)
Hello Taran Meyer, and welcome to this friendly world of rational good sense---with its thousands of freethinkers who recognise how religions gravely deceive and control vulnerable people beginning sadly with innocent children.