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Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is

Started this discussion. Last reply by Gareth Mensah Mar 20, 2012. 22 Replies

Is science a religion? Or is it the polar opposite of religion, a belief in empiricism over dogma?This thorny issue has theorists' heads in a spin, because science and religion are both systems of…Continue

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Gareth Mensah replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"There's a difference between knowledge and belief. Even if we do not have evidence that our reality is not just a mere dream or hallucination, because we experience it as real, even if it was some matrix-like illusion, it is our reality, so…"
Mar 20, 2012
Joan Denoo replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"After the assassination of MLK in 1968, the fires and riots in Anacostia, I returned to my classroom and for a full mile and half the town was ashes and falling bricks. When I opened my classroom and sat to ponder the events women started coming,…"
Mar 17, 2012
Steven Lehar replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"To have faith you have to believ in something that isn't true? That is nonsense! I have faith the sun will rise every morning for the rest of my life. Does that make it become untrue? It is only FALSE faiths that are untrue! If you have faith…"
Mar 16, 2012
MICHAIL CLUTTER replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"To have faith....you have to know that something isn't true....and then have faith to continue believing in it. So by definition, you're saying Science isn't true, but I have faith that it science will take me to where I want to go.…"
Mar 16, 2012
MICHAIL CLUTTER replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"To have faith....you have to know that something isn't true....and then have faith to continue believing in it. So by definition, you're saying Science isn't true, but I have faith that it science will take me to where I want to go.…"
Mar 16, 2012
Steven Lehar replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"Reply to Michael R: I respectfully disagree. The word Scientism pre-existed my use of it, and although it has had an entirely different connotation than what I intend, its definition is exactly the way I use it. Scientism has been used as a…"
Mar 16, 2012
Michael R replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"You have good ideas, but your communication could be better. I would throw away the word 'scientism' and speak more precisely of specific values and beliefs. I would start with David Hume's maxim: "reason is ... the slave of the…"
Mar 15, 2012
Richard ∑wald replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
""People shouldn't use the word truth unless there's an "s" at the end of it." ~ John Hiatt "
Mar 15, 2012
Richard ∑wald replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
Mar 15, 2012
Richard ∑wald replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"Oooh, …this does't work well with quantum mechanics."
Mar 15, 2012
Steven Lehar replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
" That link is up and working now, you can check it out here: http://cns-alumni.bu.edu/~slehar/Scientism.pdf    Steve Lehar http://cns-alumni.bu.edu/~slehar "
Mar 15, 2012
Steven Lehar replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"Reply to leveni: Why don't you go to church and find your understanding there? Many find their "truth" in God. Because you don't believe in that path, nor the "truth" it claims to reveal, you choose the path of reason…"
Mar 15, 2012
Steven Lehar replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"Reason and science are indeed valueless data, and thus they can never form the basis of a system of ethics. But ScientISM is different in that regard. It IS a personal belief system that reasonable people hold, and they hold it with a passion if,…"
Mar 15, 2012
leveni replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"Scientism: According the Oxford dictionary: excessive belief in the power of scientific knowledge and techniques. As Ruth said: Isn't "faith" by definition belief in the absence of evidence?  Therefore if…"
Mar 15, 2012
Michael R replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"And it opens the possibility of devising a system of ethics and morality based on reason... That statement is a bit misleading. Reason and science are valueless data. Data can be used equally for good or bad. Ethics and morality, without a god, can…"
Mar 15, 2012
Steven Lehar replied to Steven Lehar's discussion Is science a religion? No, but ScientISM is
"Only false faith! There is ONE true faith, one belief system that is distinguished by the fact that it worships reality as it exists. Faith in SCIENTISM is believing what I know IS true! Not all faiths are equal -- all the other faiths are WRONG."
Mar 15, 2012

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At 3:29pm on March 14, 2012, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

Welcome, Steven! Glad you could join us. :D

Please consider joining a group to meet people and talk about anything that's on your mind, Hang With Friends. You might also want to look at Geek and Nerd Haven, Psychology, Atheists Who Love Science!, Atheists in the Biological Sciences, and perhaps Reforming Counter-Apologetics, Create your own religion, and/or The Church of Atheism.

After you've searched for stuff that interests you in "Groups" above and in the "Forums", don't forget to look at recent activity which hides along the right margin of the page all the way at the bottom.

At 10:39am on March 14, 2012, Steph S. said…

Greetings! Welcome to the site!

At 8:56am on March 14, 2012, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
Hi Steven. 
Welcome to this world of rationality, truth and peace, where common sense helped by science leads to freethinking wisdom as you well know.
  
We invite you to make good friends by joining the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Gods, Atheism, Evolution, Darwin..." with 663 discussion topics and 3333 members.
 
 
 

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