Stacy, thanks for the fered back. I haven't seen the film "Color of Fear" but will track it down. check out www.goupstate.com/stroller/stump and see how respectful I have been with the local christians. You are right I can't go into an african american baptist church and convince them that god doesn't exist. I can go into any african american church of christian descent and convince them that atheists are for the most part a misunderstood group of do gooders. All we need is a little bit of input on the questions and we can come out of this looking great. Being a student of history I would have to say that most african americans don't feel like they freed themselves, I would also venture to say that most african americans don't feel totally free every minute of every day of their lives. I don't know many white folks, yellow folks, or red folks that feel truely free all the time, if they take the time to think about it. Christians will never be free of the need for jesus christ and it is not my place to change that. My job as I see it is to be a good little atheist and spread the joy. hehe. BTW what part of SC ?