"Here is an exchange I had with a mormon over belief, but it might fit in here also;
Tony Carroll May I ask a question? What do you mean when you say "I know that ___________ (insert assertation, i.e., the church, the bom, Joseph Smith, etc.)…"
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roland707 commented on Sicile's blog post fiction or non-fiction
"Of course it's fiction. But maybe you could call it "reference"."
Daniel B commented on Sicile's blog post fiction or non-fiction
"I like your point that conflicting texts can't all be true and that simply believing a story is true does not make it so, but I'm still feeling stumped on this one. I'm hoping to see everyone else's answer."
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fiction or non-fiction
Ok, so it goes without saying that I think the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, and all other religious books should be considered fiction. Now, how the hell do I convince others of this?We were having a discussion at work (i am a teacher) about fiction and non-fiction. A student asked a teacher if the bible was fiction or non-fiction. The teacher said the student should ask his parent. I thought that was a cheap ass answer, I mean the kid deserves a straightforward answer.Another teacher said…See More
VeganAquarianAtheist left a comment for Sicile
"Hi Sicile,
Sorry for the long delay... haven't logged-in in several weeks... just found your comment re: going vegan... congrats... one more convert into the fold... several hundred million to go... LOL
Been Vegetarian since '77... Vegan…"
Sicile commented on Earther's blog post Flash Mob in the Work Place
"This happens all the time at my school. Our principal will ask those of us who "are of mind to" to bow heads and pray before we eat at just about every PTA meeting we have. I always wonder what our muslim family thinks when she prays…"
Sicile commented on Kim D's blog post My husband wants my child to say grace.
"Well, to start with, have your husband read the 6th chapter of Matthew where christ tells his followers how to pray. What your husband is doing (and asking your child to do) go goes against this teaching. When I was a xtian, this really…"
Brian George commented on Sicile's blog post Devine Transfers ... who knew?
"Good deal Johnny! I never knew that."
Sicile commented on HALEY SAID's blog post More Facbook Hatred
"Halo - this experience is why I am so hesitant to come out of the closet. My family is HUGE and ALL xtian. I just dont think i want to face that all the time. I love your idea about posting all the latest atheist news - if they are…"
Sicile commented on Sicile's blog post Devine Transfers ... who knew?
"Interesting Cliff - Didn't know about that... I can't believe he is still going strong and people still follow him. People looking for the easy way out I guess. You would think he would get busted for fraud...
Thanks for…"
Sicile commented on HALEY SAID's blog post Atheist Nexus Badge
"I throw up in my mouth a little each time I read my home page from FB b/c of the prayer requests, god praises, and general ignorance of so many people. It is all I can do not to come back with some smart @$$ comment. Sorry this happened…"
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Devine Transfers ... who knew?
You have got to be f'ing kidding me! I just sat slack-jawed watching a con artist on BET. The good Reverend Peter Popoff was just on. Did you know that if you call his number he will send you his Miracle Spring Water (for either drinking or anointing yourself - your choice) and he will send you his special anointing tool? All for FREE! BUT WAIT! there's more! if you send him some "seed money" on faith of course, and you take all of your bills out and you pray over them, he will write you a…See More
Joseph P commented on Sicile's blog post He was sworn into office on the Koran! Bugger!
"For that matter, forget all of the legal stuff and Christian-nation garbage. Would your father really accept anything that a Muslim said under oath, swearing on the Bible? Wouldn't he rather bind the oath to something that actually…"
Greg commented on Sicile's blog post Santa Clause is not real?
"Since when do you see Christians following their own rules and guidelines? Something you should not forget is that they believe they don't need to always tell the truth in order to get into heaven. Nor do they have to stop themselves from…"
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Posted on October 2, 2012 at 7:43pm 3 Comments 0 Likes
Ok, so it goes without saying that I think the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, and all other religious books should be considered fiction. Now, how the hell do I convince others of this?
We were having a discussion at work (i am a teacher) about fiction and non-fiction. A student asked a teacher if the bible was fiction or non-fiction. The teacher said the student should ask his parent. I thought that was a cheap ass answer, I mean the kid deserves a straightforward…
Devine Transfers ... who knew?
Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:14am 2 Comments 0 Likes
You have got to be f'ing kidding me! I just sat slack-jawed watching a con artist on BET. The good Reverend Peter Popoff was just on. Did you know that if you call his number he will send you his Miracle Spring Water (for either drinking or anointing yourself - your choice) and he will send you his special anointing tool? All for FREE! BUT WAIT! there's more! if you send him some "seed money" on faith of course, and you take all of your bills out and you pray over them, he will write…
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Posted on December 26, 2010 at 6:57pm 2 Comments 0 Likes
I asked my family this weekend why they as Christians feel it is OK to lie to their children about Santa Clause. I explained that, to me, it seemed quite hypocritical that one of the Christian tenants is not to lie, but yet in celebration of the very beginning of Christianity Christians lie to their children about this man who brings toys. The answer I got was because it brings so much joy to the children. So, is it one of those "ends justifies the means" types of…
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Posted on September 12, 2010 at 10:56pm 6 Comments 0 Likes
My dad (Christian) said to me today after hearing that a person had been sworn into office on the Koran, "That is so stupid! I can't believe they swore him in to office on the Koran! This is a Christian nation!" I silently thought, " I can't believe they use the Bible to swear people in all the time!"
You know, it's interesting, that a person can't just take an oath on their own - like their word is not good enough and is meaningless unless it is put on the bible (or Koran). When did… Continue
You know, it's interesting, that a person can't just take an oath on their own - like their word is not good enough and is meaningless unless it is put on the bible (or Koran). When did… Continue
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- At 1:19am on July 7, 2010,
Atheist Princess said… - Welcome to the Nexus ( :
- At 3:30pm on July 7, 2010,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… - Hello Sicile Daresh, and welcome to this friendly meeting place with freethinkers who recognise that religion is a huge deception aimed at controlling vulnerable superstitious people, including defenceless children; and
how tragic and inexcusable it is that women and minorities have been oppressed these last two thousand years and even longer.
Terry Meaden
founder of the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Evolution, Darwin..." with its 290 discussion topics.
We invite you to join us and 1700 others.
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin
- At 10:55am on July 10, 2010,
michael oliver said… - Not really a secret but I am keeping them close to my chest because some of the themes could get a fatwa put on my head. so I don't want to publish to much in a public forum until they are done or almost done. I will invite you as a friend and send you my email address privately if you would like to know more.
- At 3:02pm on July 11, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
- Delighted to help. Terry
- At 10:51pm on July 11, 2010,
Sentient Biped said… - Thanks for your comments! It was nice of you! I need to put a different bible verse up, that one has been there for a while - still, I'm glad you liked it.
- At 3:28pm on July 12, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
- Dear Sicile
I can tell you about some videos to watch that have been recommended within the "Origins" group. There are many of them.
e.g. excellent on Darwin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin/forum/topics/stanford-university-lectures
If I trawl back through the early discussion topics on "Origins" (especially around November 2008 to February 2009) I can find numerous good videos placed there about the Universe and everything else.
But what I suggest is this. Rewrite your message as a discussion question topic, asking the members of "Origins". Richard Healy could be among those who respond as regards the video answer. That way others too will benefit from the advice given about books, films, videos etc.
So prepare your topic message and post it as a discussion topic. If you need help to how to post it, ask me of course.
Good luck and best wishes, Terry.
- At 11:27pm on July 22, 2010,
Scott Popejoy said… - Thanks so much for your thoughtful comments Sicile! I certainly would recommend coming out with the atheism...when you're ready of course. After my deconversion, church was/is the most uncomfortable place in the world for me. If I didn't come out with it to the family, I would be expected to go & I just can't do that...not even as a social gathering. Nothwithstanding, I still like Anselms quote from long ago, Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future. The next step for me now is bridging the silence & actually talking about the "Elephant in the Living Room." Gently of course.
- At 12:02am on September 30, 2010,
Rip Woodward said… - Hey Sicile. I had a good time meeting all you guys. I felt a little out of place but I am sure that will change with more meetups. I enjoyed our middle of the table conversation. lol looking forward to many more!
- At 7:44am on October 21, 2010,
Jack Butler said… - Hi Sicile,
Sorry about the delay in replying, but I got your message on my smart-phone last night (time difference Ireland - US I guess ) and I needed a laptop to answer properly. No problem with info. though.
A few clarifying questions for you though;
When you say you would live to visit the northern section do you mean the geographic north or Northern Ireland (part of the UK).
Again when you refer to the north, do you mean the very north or just north of where you were the last visit?
What Airport are you flying to or is that still open to choice?
What kind of holiday are you planning? Will you rent a car, a bike or use public transport? Are you planning to stay in hotels, bed & breakfasts, hostels, just camp or use a mixture of these? What are you looking for in a holiday? Night-life, beaches, mountainsides, museums, scenery, festivals or what?
Finally, when are you coming and how long will you be hear?
If you can let me know some or all of the above together with any other info you think relevant, I'll help with any info I can.
regards,
Jack
- At 12:50am on January 1, 2011,
Pirate Bard said… - Hey, sorry I didn't respond sooner, but I just wanted to say thanks for the comments and adding me as a friend. :-)
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Nathan Young,
No Jason Torpy it is you that should be banned for promoting atheism, a belief that has no foundation in reality and zero proof behind it. The letter was a mockery of your atheist beliefs. I request to the board here that they remove Jason for his unverifiable beliefs in atheism for which he has no proof other than his arrogance. The letter was a mockery of atheism. Atheism is stupid and it should be mocked and it…
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Nathan Young to Jason Torpy,
for once you and I can agree on something. We should disrespect beliefs that are untenable such as the belief that there is no God. Indeed for me to respect you Jason, I cannot respect your belief in non-belief in atheism. Your atheism comes across as arrogrance, smugness, and self righteous. Indeed after reading "An Open Letter to My Religious Friends" I penned one…
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