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Should we call ourselves atheists?

Started this discussion. Last reply by D2 Jul 15. 28 Replies

Yet another proof that god does not exist.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jared Lardo Aug 12, 2009. 7 Replies

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D2 replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"I spend the time for a lot of reasons. Economic and political power, off the top of my head. I'm a fairly social person and unfortunately, the vast majority of the people in my life subscribe to irrational beliefs. I don't think…"
Jul 15
Luara replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"If there is nothing that you can find in common with that person beyond being myth informed why waste your time? The Socratic method, which Peter Boghossian teaches in A Manual for Creating Atheists, is useful in many ways in life, not just in…"
Jul 15
Luara replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"ps For me, "nonbeliever" is related to the Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever series of novels by Stephen Donaldson.  Stephen Donaldson had religious parents and knows all about the misuses of religion, and there are many quasi-religious…"
Jul 15
Christopher Cosgrove replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"I prefer to go with atheist. As the Onion says "Stereotypes save time". If there is nothing that you can find in common with that person beyond being myth informed why waste your time?"
Jul 15
Luara replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"it seems unfair that we have to define ourselves not only as a negative, but as if the default position is belief Belief, whether religious or not, is the default position in the sense that if you don't think critically about it, you'll…"
Jul 15
Christine replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"It's not an usual question. I think it's Sam Harris who said that he doesn't care for the term "atheist" because it forces us into the negative. Like "NON-believer," it seems unfair that we have to define ourselves…"
Jul 14
Future replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
""My point is about why would we even need to be able to distinguish ourselves from the ones that believe in some garbage." It is unquestionably a strange reality, which is why FSM is such a handy reference. Religionists would see a deity…"
Jul 14
Radix Salvilines replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"Great quote Future. I will probably harass people around me with it for a few days. My point is about why would we even need to be able to distinguish ourselves from the ones that believe in some garbage. Why would that even concern us? Who cares…"
Jul 14
Joan Denoo replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"Atheist is a perfectly fine word, as far as I am concerned, and I admit to being against theists, "the belief in one God as the creator and…"
Jul 14
D2 replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"I think that's the best way I've ever heard it stated, Future. I can also really see humans having some predisposition to forming something like religion. From what I can tell, humans like to classify ourselves and other things into…"
Jul 14
Future replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"I'm not clear what the argument here is all about. We call ourselves atheists because we need a name to distinguish ourselves from those who choose to believe garbage from a pool of world religions. It's really that simple - we just needed…"
Jul 14
Michael Penn replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"JW's would be especially difficult because to them, they are the only true religion. That means all the other professing christians are wrong, and any other belief except theirs is wrong. To partake of any heavenly promises you have to be a JW.…"
Jul 14
Luara replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"Peter Boghossians says he's had less success with his techniques for stimulating doubt and questioning, in Jehovah's Witnesses.  Not clear why JW's would be especially difficult.   "
Jul 14
Loren Miller replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"Actually, that statement has fomented considerable conversation, the three times JWs have visited here, and it was an integral part of the conversation the first time.  One thing you learn about Jehovah's Witnesses real fast is that they…"
Jul 14
Luara replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"That's true, if you want to try the tactics in Peter Boghossians A Manual for Creating Atheists, it's probably better to call yourself a nonbeliever.  Believers might get into the conversation in hopes of converting you. "
Jul 14
Radix Salvilines replied to Radix Salvilines's discussion Should we call ourselves atheists?
"Are you referring to human's incredible ability to name patterns they see? Even when they do not understand them? It is possible that all the Gods present in modern religions are derived from first religions that used to name stars with the…"
Jul 14

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