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The Free Will Debate

Started this discussion. Last reply by Oliver Mar 1, 2010. 15 Replies

There has been a debate raging intermittently in our household between myself, an atheist, and my oldest son, a believer. I need some help with this.I say that I don't believe there is a god or gods…Continue

 

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Oliver replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"One word. Determinism."
Mar 1, 2010
eric stone replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"Free will may be more of an illusion than a reality. We are part of the physical universe and our brains follow the laws of nature just any other aspect of nature. So what if there's no free will. The determinants of our behavior and mind are…"
Feb 25, 2010
Rob van Senten replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"Also ask him why, if the Christian god exists, this god would allow so much confusion in the world in regards to his existence? If there is no proof for the existence for a Christian god and there are thousands of other religions and gods how does…"
Feb 25, 2010
Atheist Insurgency replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"He admits that religion is slavery. If God deliberately erases evidence of himself it's because God wants humans to achieve the highest potential of their intellect, even at the cost of religion. Reason supersedes religion."
Feb 25, 2010
Todd Draper replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"I would contend that the concept of "free will" is debatable in and of itself. Dawkins makes perhaps the most compelling argument for this in The Selfish Gene. I am what I am, and that's all that I am (to borrow from Popeye) because…"
Feb 25, 2010
Stephen Moore replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"The "proof negates free will" argument presupposes that faith is a requirement of free will. It's not true. Even if there were unambiguous, undeniable proof of the existence for this particular god, free will would still exist in…"
Feb 25, 2010
Graham Lapworth replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"I would pose this question of his loving God; Would you put him in charge at a child minding centre? I for one would not."
Feb 24, 2010
Howard S. Dunn replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"It's a mystery! Duh!"
Feb 24, 2010
Faerie replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"My argument would be that there would be people who simply would not accept the evidence of god even if put before them by accusing it of being fake (like those who still don't believe in evolution), and thus would prove free will could exist…"
Feb 24, 2010
Howard S. Dunn replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"Exactly - are you resisting temptation if you believe hell is the actual consequence for giving in to temptation? After all - what's so tempting about five minutes of sin followed by an eternity of pain?"
Feb 23, 2010
Glenn Sogge replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"His contention that it wouldn't negate free will in all people undercuts his own argument. What would those people be doing other than exercising free will? The Christian god obviously made us with free will or he wouldn't have had to warn…"
Feb 23, 2010
Tom Thompson replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"You could debate this with him but it's a tired old argument. Instead, why don't you ask him the following. Is it more admirable to do the right thing under duress (fear of being punished or to earn a reward) or to do the right thing…"
Feb 23, 2010
Graeme replied to Maria Myrback's discussion The Free Will Debate
"The christian god, as I know it to be, is all knowing, all powerful and all loving. That alone doesn't work, see the Riddle of Epicurus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEkJJidVjGU If it's just all knowing it already knows the past…"
Feb 23, 2010
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The Free Will Debate

There has been a debate raging intermittently in our household between myself, an atheist, and my oldest son, a believer. I need some help with this.I say that I don't believe there is a god or gods because there is no scientific evidence to support the existence of ANY divine being. HE says that if there WAS evidence it would do away with free will in the majority of the population. His contention is that if proof was shown of a christian god, Most people (and he DOES stress that there would…See More
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At 8:20pm on February 21, 2010, Maria Myrback said…
Thank you for the warm welcomes :-) I appreciate them. I hope I'm not boring ;-)
At 3:04am on February 20, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
Hi to Maria Myrback and welcome to Atheist Nexus.
We are pleased to welcome you here among the sensible, rational people of this world who, like you, recognise religion for the superstition and fraud that it is --- and that God and gods are nothing but fictions inside people's heads.

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