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World of Batsh!t - #2: Moon Loons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pat Jun 10. 7 Replies

The moon's a balloon, so says the song.  Problem is, there's a guy out there, perhaps more than one, who want to claim that the moon is actually a PROJECTION (up around 55,000 ft, so he claims!), and…Continue

Tags: CoolHardLogic, batshit, hologram, moon

World of Batsh!t - #1: Sky Demons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 5. 6 Replies

We've all seen it - claims either so outrageous or so ignorant that they test the bounds of credibility, and they're usually, though not always associated with religion.  Well, it would seem that…Continue

Tags: mon-roe, Sky Demons, CoolHardLogic, batshit

What kind of smoke alarms do you have? (Daily Kos)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 26. 4 Replies

I get an email of links to mostly political pieces from the Daily Kos every day, and that's how I became aware of the following.  Personally, I have no idea whether the three smoke detectors we have…Continue

Tags: carbon monoxide, photoelectric, ionization, detector, smoke

Thinkers Anonymous

Started this discussion. Last reply by Greg Feb 16. 10 Replies

Right off the top - I did not write this, and I honestly do not know who did.  I stumbled onto it this morning on the hard drive of my laptop, in a folder of a collection of written pieces I have…Continue

Tags: anonymous, thinkers, humor


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About Me:
I'm a semi-retired / involuntarily unemployed electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here a touch over four years!), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller replied to Christine's discussion Finally attended an atheist lecture!
"Very good liars, indeed ... and the ones they lie to the most are themselves, in the long haul."
4 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Joan Denoo's discussion Israel-Gaza Conflict: Gaza Suffers Its Deadliest Day After ‘Heinous Massacre’
"What you said, Pat."
Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"You beat me to it, Ian.  I was about to post that edition of Non Sequitur until I saw that you already had it up.Anyone here get the feeling that Wiley is an atheist?!?"
Loren Miller replied to Eric Wideman's discussion Plane crash in the Ukraine
"Putin sure as hell didn't want something this stupid to happen ... but when you put high-tech equipment in the hands of people who haven't a full appreciation of what can go wrong, this is PRECISELY what you get.Putin may not have pushed…"
Loren Miller replied to James M. Martin's discussion John Gielgud Once Played Every Role in a Movie Version of Shakespeare's "The Tempest," But This is Something Else Again
"Okay ... that was seriously fucking weird!"
Loren Miller replied to matthew greenberg's discussion Post Hobby Lobby
"The problem with any kind of post-Hobby-Lobby legislation is all too simple: the House of Representatives and its "leader" (if you can call him that), John Boehner.  His opposition to anything not having to do with the 1% and the…"
Loren Miller replied to Eric Wideman's discussion Plane crash in the Ukraine
"Rachel Maddow has done a bit of serious journalism on this matter.  Have a look at her report here."
Grinning Cat liked Loren Miller's discussion An Open Letter to Congressman John Boehner
Loren Miller replied to Eric Wideman's discussion Plane crash in the Ukraine
"There's still the matter of the ELINT (electronic intelligence) which has been gathered about this incident, particularly the tracking information on the ground-to-air missile and any heat signature data that may have been recorded as…"
Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"Something substantial yet mellow to round out your work week: yet another Radiohead transcription by Christopher O'Riley. "
Joan Denoo replied to Loren Miller's discussion An Open Letter to Congressman John Boehner in the group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"This comment to Boehner is the first Republican response I've read or heard that makes any sense to me. How ever they decide things, what criteria they use, what goals they have are not to govern wisely, but to govern by strategy. It isn't…"
Joan Denoo liked Loren Miller's discussion An Open Letter to Congressman John Boehner
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An Open Letter to Congressman John Boehner

Some days ago, Congressman John Boehner (R - Ohio) wrote an op-ed piece entitled, "Obama is trampling the Constitution".  It would seem as though that editorial was enough to cause one of John's long-time friends to pen a response ... a candid…See More
Loren Miller replied to Luara's discussion Proof of god(s)
"Here's a thought that Steve Shives came up with in one of his videos which impressed me:Why should WE worry about what kind of proof we would need to be convinced of the existence of a god.  If god is all that and a bag of chips, HE KNOWS…"
Loren Miller commented on Andrew Bradford Hoke's blog post How 'out' are you?
"I don't advertise especially, though I'm considering getting a circle-A lapel pin, a-la The Thinking Atheist logo.  If someone asks, they get the straight dope.  How down I am with just spontaneously telling someone out of the…"
Loren Miller replied to Eric Wideman's discussion Plane crash in the Ukraine
"A plane flying six miles high may be safe from a shoulder-launched Stinger or similar weapon system, but the BUK anti-aircraft system which is most likely responsible for the attack is capable up to 72,000 feet.  That's U-2 territory ...…"
Loren Miller replied to Eric Wideman's discussion Plane crash in the Ukraine
"I threw this out elsewhere, but I think it still holds:Personally, I believe you got some rebels who got their hands on a weapon system without fully understanding either its capacity or its use in a dynamic environment.  Someone saw a target…"
Loren Miller commented on Andrew Bradford Hoke's blog post Are Christians afraid to discuss or think about Hell?
""Thetanic Verses" ... now THAT's a good one to remember if the El-Ronners ever show up around here!"
Loren Miller commented on Gregory Phillip Dearth's blog post Irrational Christian Concepts
"As it comes to "evil" as a concept, that one can be laid in Yahweh's corner without so much as a blink.  His prophet even says so: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these…"
Loren Miller posted a status
"Hot ziggedy!!! My DVD copy of "The Unbelievers" just arrived! Time to fire up the Blu-Ray player and get down to business!"

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At 6:02am on July 7, 2014, Zerin Firoz said…

Ya Bangladesh and thanks a lot again for welcoming me so warmly! :)

At 7:42am on June 23, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren! What an affirmation of what I have been trying to get across sine the 1980s. I watched it happen, slowly at first, and then exponentially. I didn't have a computer in those days and did all the calculations from paper and pencil and watched the trendline move upward. 

Thank you much! Indeed, I will order the book and look forward to reading it. 

Buy the way, I didn't see confirmation from economists, even though I read everything I can get my hands on. One day, I ran across Steve Keen, an economist from Australia and he confirmed what I was seeing. Whew!

At 9:42pm on April 26, 2014, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

I edited the title, but once the URL is created, that's fixed.

At 3:08pm on April 21, 2014, K J said…

Thanks for your welcome! I applied to the Clergy Project nearly a year ago and was refused because I could not answer the screener's questions "correctly". At the time I had just admitted to myself (after a 15 year horrendously painful journey) that I am an Atheist, so perhaps that's why I wasn't able to satisfy the screener. I'm considering re-applying, as I am better able to express my thoughts and position. Appreciate your encouragement.

At 1:56pm on February 12, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren, just to let you know I have seen the article you recommended and have it highlighted to read more thoroughly. Thanks for thinking of me about Reagan and Obama. No doubt, I will have a comment or two to make. 

At 8:39am on January 28, 2014, Michael Penn said…
I just replied you from my private e-mail as a message did not show up in Nexus. After the reply I could click here and go to the comment wall. I have Firefox and have not had this problem before. It might be Charter on this end, OR just clear up after I reboot the computer. Who knows? I do know that I cannot click "message" on your Nexus page and send you anything. That part just does not work. Earlier clicking DOG's link to a reply about Walter Brown did not work. That link is working agian now. Very strange problem.
At 8:12am on January 28, 2014, Michael Penn said…
It clears every time I close my browser. At the moment answering you is no problem. If you get this message then I'm not sure what was causing the problem in the first place?
At 7:58am on January 9, 2014, Randall Smith said…

Don't mind me and my "old age" opinions. Heck over the years I've gone to countless baseball games (esp when I lived in L.A.), one pro football game, some pro basketball games, and many college football and basketball games. But, as I said, that was back before ESPN, etc. Like you, I really don't regret seeing them all in person. I guess it's a state of mind. And I should define "crazy"!

At 10:01am on January 7, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Randall, thank you so much for reminding me that you steered me to the "amputee" site. I am sorry I forgot my source. 

I am so with you on the prayer thing and I had the same thought about the prayers for the girl who died. People, get up off your knees, unfold your hands, and start working toward sensible gun laws and the social institutions that fail to detect insanity that brings about such tragedy. 

You are right about not being too bold about non-belief in a crowd of Hell's Angels who are christian, or whatever. Judicious boldness seems to be right. 

I got really far behind reading my mail while at my daughter's home and with my five great-grandchildren. Thanks for being patient.

At 9:54am on January 7, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren, thanks for the heads up on your new piece. I am reading it now. I really appreciate you calling my attention to this subject that gets my bells ringing. I'll get back to you after reading it. 

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Seth Andrews - "The Ultimate Question"

Posted on July 9, 2014 at 7:00am 6 Comments

Seth Andrews is NOT “The Thinking Atheist.”  He’ll tell you this himself, and doubtless, he’s tired of disavowing that that sobriquet was in any way meant to represent him.  He wanted it to be an icon to represent atheists who THINK, who have reasoned their way to the conclusion: “Religion simply does not make sense.”  All the above notwithstanding, there can be no argument that Mr. Andrews is A thinking atheist, even if he isn’t THE Thinking Atheist.

As evidence to…


The Problem With "The Leftovers"

Posted on June 30, 2014 at 9:14am 15 Comments

When we think of irrational behavior, we naturally think of human beings first, of their ability to act based on belief rather than fact, to operate without regard to their own wellbeing or that of others they are charged with caring for or some other related behavioral anomaly.  However, what if there were an irrationality in the laws of physics and of nature, which allowed two percent of the world’s population to suddenly vanish, with the speed of throwing a light switch?  Babies from…


The Wisdom of Bertolt Brecht

Posted on June 14, 2014 at 11:38am 7 Comments

Saturday morning.  My wife sleeps in because she can and I don’t because my sleep-in gene wigged out about 10 squares back.  Feed the cats, check email, scope out what’s going on with Atheist Nexus and Car and Driver Backfires and it’s not even 7:30 yet.  Okay, time for breakfast, then.  A bowl of Rice Chex and a glass of OJ later and eight o’clock is still at least 15 minutes away.  A quick check on YouTube tells me that not a whole lot new is going on there, but, out of somewhere in…


My Response to the Cancellation of "Atheist America"

Posted on May 2, 2014 at 6:23am 15 Comments

As Matthew Greenberg alerted us yesterday, a planned exhibit - "Atheist America" - has been cancelled by the Smithsonian.  To put it at its mildest, I am NOT down with that and less so that this decision was caused by threats of violence from people who would have us believe they are…


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