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World of Batsh!t - #1: Sky Demons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 5. 6 Replies

We've all seen it - claims either so outrageous or so ignorant that they test the bounds of credibility, and they're usually, though not always associated with religion.  Well, it would seem that…Continue

Tags: mon-roe, Sky Demons, CoolHardLogic, batshit

What kind of smoke alarms do you have? (Daily Kos)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 26. 4 Replies

I get an email of links to mostly political pieces from the Daily Kos every day, and that's how I became aware of the following.  Personally, I have no idea whether the three smoke detectors we have…Continue

Tags: carbon monoxide, photoelectric, ionization, detector, smoke

Thinkers Anonymous

Started this discussion. Last reply by Greg Feb 16. 10 Replies

Right off the top - I did not write this, and I honestly do not know who did.  I stumbled onto it this morning on the hard drive of my laptop, in a folder of a collection of written pieces I have…Continue

Tags: anonymous, thinkers, humor

What religion has contributed to the world this month - Episode 14 (December-January 2014)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 18. 2 Replies

Kids beaten because they're supposedly demons, a young boy whose penis was cut off by a mohel, a religious organization ruling that the internet is illegal in their country, a young girl saddled with…Continue

Tags: mohel, polio, circumcision, news, religion


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About Me:
I'm a semi-retired / involuntarily unemployed electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here a touch over four years!), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller replied to James M. Martin's discussion World Wrestling's Steve Austin on Why Same Sex Couples Should be Allowed to Marry
"Because Stone-Cold SAID SO![chuckle!] Hey, I'm not gonna argue!"
8 hours ago
Luara replied to Loren Miller's discussion Descartes' OTHER Job in the group Hang With Friends
"Are you talking about Pascal's wager? "
19 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Raj's discussion Bible: all laws must be obeyed
"This is the point I bring each and every time some fatuous faith fanatic wants to assert that the new testament obviates the old.  That they frequently have no idea about Matthew 5:17-20 tells me that they are less likely to have read the bible…"
20 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"I've been listening to Christopher O'Riley's piano transcriptions of songs by Radiohead a lot lately.  Many of them are truly beautiful, including this cover of "Street Spirit (Fade Out)": Please enjoy."
21 hours ago
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"Well Thank Goodness It's Friday ... though today is Wednesday!"
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"I laughed at it. One idea at a time for me today."
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Life and Donuts

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Loren Miller replied to Loren Miller's discussion Descartes' OTHER Job in the group Hang With Friends
"Jeez!  And here I thought maybe you'd get a laugh out of the cartoon!"
James M. Martin replied to Loren Miller's discussion Descartes' OTHER Job in the group Hang With Friends
"Descartes had a tragic failure of nerve toward the end of his life. He made a wager. It fudged when it came to whether one was a believer or a freethinker. The wager posited that nothing was to be lost by belief in an afterlife in heaven or hell,…"
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Cardinal Dolan says women can just go to 7-11 for their health care (Daily Kos)

You know, celibate, white, old men probably should just stay away from any discussion of lady parts and their health. But will Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York do that? Of course not!“I would be inspired by the Hobby Lobby [owners],” Dolan said. “I think they’re just true Americans. They’re saying, look, the genius of America is that religious convictions affect the way we act… They sure have my admiration.”“But doesn’t that set a dangerous precedent?” O’Donnell wondered. “If a…See More
Loren Miller replied to John Jubinsky's discussion Study Says Most Americans Doubt Big Bang in the group ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN
"The sad fact is that most Americans are lucky to know their asses from their respective elbows.  This may be because they don't care or they feel like they don't have to know or they suffer severely from the Dunning-Kruger…"
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Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"Joan:I could put: "a Mommy when I grow up" on the left side of the ledger and "a Mommy ... or a doctor or engineer or journalist or musician or ... Anything I Want!" on the right, but I thought that would break the overall theme…"
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" Here we go ... nothing fancy, but I think it sorta works:"

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At 3:08pm on April 21, 2014, K J said…

Thanks for your welcome! I applied to the Clergy Project nearly a year ago and was refused because I could not answer the screener's questions "correctly". At the time I had just admitted to myself (after a 15 year horrendously painful journey) that I am an Atheist, so perhaps that's why I wasn't able to satisfy the screener. I'm considering re-applying, as I am better able to express my thoughts and position. Appreciate your encouragement.

At 1:56pm on February 12, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren, just to let you know I have seen the article you recommended and have it highlighted to read more thoroughly. Thanks for thinking of me about Reagan and Obama. No doubt, I will have a comment or two to make. 

At 8:39am on January 28, 2014, Michael Penn said…
I just replied you from my private e-mail as a message did not show up in Nexus. After the reply I could click here and go to the comment wall. I have Firefox and have not had this problem before. It might be Charter on this end, OR just clear up after I reboot the computer. Who knows? I do know that I cannot click "message" on your Nexus page and send you anything. That part just does not work. Earlier clicking DOG's link to a reply about Walter Brown did not work. That link is working agian now. Very strange problem.
At 8:12am on January 28, 2014, Michael Penn said…
It clears every time I close my browser. At the moment answering you is no problem. If you get this message then I'm not sure what was causing the problem in the first place?
At 7:58am on January 9, 2014, Randall Smith said…

Don't mind me and my "old age" opinions. Heck over the years I've gone to countless baseball games (esp when I lived in L.A.), one pro football game, some pro basketball games, and many college football and basketball games. But, as I said, that was back before ESPN, etc. Like you, I really don't regret seeing them all in person. I guess it's a state of mind. And I should define "crazy"!

At 10:01am on January 7, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Randall, thank you so much for reminding me that you steered me to the "amputee" site. I am sorry I forgot my source. 

I am so with you on the prayer thing and I had the same thought about the prayers for the girl who died. People, get up off your knees, unfold your hands, and start working toward sensible gun laws and the social institutions that fail to detect insanity that brings about such tragedy. 

You are right about not being too bold about non-belief in a crowd of Hell's Angels who are christian, or whatever. Judicious boldness seems to be right. 

I got really far behind reading my mail while at my daughter's home and with my five great-grandchildren. Thanks for being patient.

At 9:54am on January 7, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren, thanks for the heads up on your new piece. I am reading it now. I really appreciate you calling my attention to this subject that gets my bells ringing. I'll get back to you after reading it. 

At 7:56am on December 27, 2013, Randall Smith said…

I'm the guy that steered you to the "amputee" site!

At 7:27am on December 27, 2013, Randall Smith said…

I guess what gets my goat are the prayers (in church. What an exercise in futility! It's so inane, let alone ridiculous. When that poor Colo. high school student (Clare?) died last week, I couldn't help but wonder what all those people who prayed for her recovery thought. I wonder if anyone decided to reject god?

At 7:30am on December 25, 2013, Randall Smith said…

I don't think being surrounded by a bunch of Hell's Angels is a good time to say " You're a bunch of ugly misfits!".  There was one person that asked me what church I went to. I admitted I didn't go to any because I am not a Christian. "What are you?", she asked. I totally shocked her with the truth!

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A Confrontation of Belief on Prime-Time Television

Posted on April 18, 2014 at 8:00am 3 Comments

Anyone here watch Grey’s Anatomy?  It’s rather a scattered potpourri of mostly doctors at a fictitious Seattle hospital, playing out multiple plotlines, medical and interpersonal and too frequently with about as much reality involved as the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party, but that’s beside the point.  There was one particularly refreshing event which occurred in the most recent episode, broadcast naught but a handful of minutes ago as this was written, between Drs. April Kepner and Jackson…


The Unbelievers - Postscript

Posted on April 8, 2014 at 1:25pm 7 Comments

During the introduction to The Unbelievers, the announcer indicated that there would be a book signing after the film and Q&A.  This was at once great news and lousy news, since I had brought my copy of Krauss’ The Physics of Star Trek with that very purpose in mind, but sadly, I have nothing of Professor Dawkins to that same end (yeah, yeah, I know, shame on me :-P).  Still, half a loaf is better than none and I exited the theater for the lobby and the line.  Uh, boy! …


The Unbelievers - My Experience

Posted on April 8, 2014 at 9:44am 19 Comments

The drive from Cleveland to Columbus was punctuated frequently by heavy rains, which made the trip something less than enjoyable, though the 120 miles passed without incident.  Approaching the Wexner Center, there was a considerable queue of people in front of the building, waiting for the doors to open (it was over an hour to show time).  I secured my car in a nearby garage and joined the line, and we chatted a bit before 6 PM arrived and we were admitted to the auditorium.  I…


Creating God in One’s Own Image (discovermagazine.com)

Posted on January 26, 2014 at 9:50am 9 Comments

For many religious people, the popular question “What would Jesus do?” is essentially the same as “What would I do?” That’s the message from an intriguing and controversial new study by Nicholas Epley from the University of Chicago. Through a combination of surveys, psychological manipulation and brain-scanning, he has found that when religious Americans try to infer the will of God, they mainly draw on their own personal beliefs.

Psychological studies have found that people are…


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