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World of Batsh!t - #2: Moon Loons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pat Jun 10. 7 Replies

The moon's a balloon, so says the song.  Problem is, there's a guy out there, perhaps more than one, who want to claim that the moon is actually a PROJECTION (up around 55,000 ft, so he claims!), and…Continue

Tags: CoolHardLogic, batshit, hologram, moon

World of Batsh!t - #1: Sky Demons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 5. 6 Replies

We've all seen it - claims either so outrageous or so ignorant that they test the bounds of credibility, and they're usually, though not always associated with religion.  Well, it would seem that…Continue

Tags: mon-roe, Sky Demons, CoolHardLogic, batshit

What kind of smoke alarms do you have? (Daily Kos)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 26. 4 Replies

I get an email of links to mostly political pieces from the Daily Kos every day, and that's how I became aware of the following.  Personally, I have no idea whether the three smoke detectors we have…Continue

Tags: carbon monoxide, photoelectric, ionization, detector, smoke

Thinkers Anonymous

Started this discussion. Last reply by Freethinker31 Jul 28. 16 Replies

Right off the top - I did not write this, and I honestly do not know who did.  I stumbled onto it this morning on the hard drive of my laptop, in a folder of a collection of written pieces I have…Continue

Tags: anonymous, thinkers, humor


Faith is NO Reason ... Truer words were never spoken.

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About Me:
I'm a semi-retired / involuntarily unemployed electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here a touch over four years!), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller replied to Sentient Biped's discussion More than 30,000 Nexus members. Where are they?
"Joan, anyone who has the piss-poor judgment to call you a "bad woman" doesn't know shit from Shinola.  As for the jackasses at Gonzaga who wanted to give their unqualified appraisal of your handiwork, it is more than obvious that…"
9 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Brent Feeney's discussion BRUTALLY HONEST: The World Dominionism Script
"Know what I've noticed?  The more simplistic the explanations are, the more the blame goes anywhere but toward the guy in the mirror for the world's problems, and the less sophisticated the proposed solutions are, the more likely…"
10 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Bertold Brautigan's discussion The Christian Right Is Scoring Big Political Victories, State by State
"The American Right started the whole batshit trip back in 1980, when dear Ronnie all but invited the Religious Reich into the political process, with the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson at the top of the guest list.  9/11 just added…"
21 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Ivy's group Atheist Humor
Loren Miller replied to Atheist in FundyLand's discussion Discouraged: just got back from chorus practice
"Maybe he'd be interested in programming some Eric Whitacre!"
Loren Miller replied to The Flying Atheist's discussion New Video on the A|N Homepage
"Give up Glenlivet?!?  HERESY! [Ummm ... question ... if *I* gave up Glenlivet, genders considered ... would that be HIMESY?!?]"
Loren Miller replied to The Flying Atheist's discussion New Video on the A|N Homepage
"You sure wouldn't catch ME doing that with a fifth of Glenlivet!!!"
Loren Miller replied to The Flying Atheist's discussion New Video on the A|N Homepage
"Ah!  A hybridization of the traditional and Patrick Stewart schools of the ALS challenge!  Most excellent!  However, I do have to say I disapprove of Richard's flagrant waste of good whisky!"
Loren Miller posted a status
"“A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind” ― Robert Oxton Bolton"
Loren Miller commented on Deidre32's blog post Pascal's Wager -- Your Fate is a Crapshoot
"James, that is probably the one line out of that play that should scare the teabaggers straight out of their shoes. The problem is that they probably would never get it."
Loren Miller replied to Sentient Biped's discussion What are some thoughtful news sources?
"Semi-retired / involuntarily unemployed, just like it says on the profile!"
Loren Miller replied to Sentient Biped's discussion What are some thoughtful news sources?
"Still a big fan of NPR, especially Morning Edition and All Things Considered, though I don't listen to them as much as I used to.  I suppose that goes with no longer having a morning and afternoon commute."
Loren Miller replied to James M. Martin's discussion No, Everyone Knows You Are A Dangerous Lunatic: A Person Without God is Immoral, Sinful, Wicked, and Naughty
""Thanks, but my heart pumps blood.  My BRAIN thinks ... and it thinks your logic lacks something ... like LOGIC.""
Loren Miller replied to James M. Martin's discussion No, Everyone Knows You Are A Dangerous Lunatic: A Person Without God is Immoral, Sinful, Wicked, and Naughty
"Precisely!  Our refusal to go along to get along makes the believers VERY uncomfortable for multiple reasons, not the least of which is the fact that we do our work and live our lives and in general manage at least as well as the believers do…"
Loren Miller replied to Morgan West's discussion Most ignorant comments about religion
"Americans came from Europe ... so why are there still Europeans?!?  CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS! [groan!]"
Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's blog post Followers of Christ faith healers bury their dead children
"Sean Faircloth has a serious mad-on about these people and rightly so.  They deprive their children of the right to live because their superstitious beliefs are more important to them than that right.I say again: a person's right to wave…"
Loren Miller commented on Freethinker31's blog post Respect for other peoples culture
"Beliefs that don't respect the rights of the individual ... beliefs like what Joan lived with, and others like her ... don't remotely deserve respect.  They deserve not just derision but active opposition.  They deserve to be…"
Loren Miller replied to Sentient Biped's discussion Will Westoboro Baptist Church Picket in Iraq?
"Agreed, leave the kids at home. Consider: WBC has in large portion relied on the law to keep them safe in the US.  Problem: that law doesn't extend to Iraq!  Question: do they realize that? I will admit that I would take a certain…"
Loren Miller commented on Deidre32's blog post The Problem of Miracles
"I spelled out my own position on miracles some time back.  Spoilers: not only don't I think they happen, I think that if they did, miracles would represent a severe and intolerable discontinuity to the rest of how reality…"
Loren Miller replied to ShroudedAtheist's discussion How rude of me!
"Sheesh, that's all we need: a bunny rabbit with an attitude! Seriously, greets and welcome! Glad you made it here."

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At 6:47pm on August 22, 2014, Pat said…

I tend to agree that the next President will be a woman. It will, in all probability, be Jeb Bush v. Hilllary Clinton. My $$$ is on Hillary, just because the Bush name is a gross anathema. If so, the teabaggers will continue to obstruct anything to improve or advance the US. I listen to them scream "I want my country back." Me? I want want my country forward.

At 12:03pm on August 22, 2014, Pat said…

Loren, sorry it's taken me so darn long to get back to you about Boehner's lawsuit against the President. You're correct in that I found it...well, not interesting from the standpoint of Boehner...but more of a bad episode of bizarre theater here in the US.

The author of the article in Daily Kos is 100% correct in that federal courts, unlike state courts, are courts of very limited jurisdiction. The only cases federal courts can hear are those enumerated in the US Constitution,an interpretation of a provision of the Constitution, or what what Congress authorizes them to hear.

Here's the real underlying stupidity of this lawsuit. Congress could pass a statute giving federal courts jurisdiction to hear this case. Before it goes into effect, guess what chief executive of the US government has to sign it into law?

The whole thing is nothing more than a propaganda ploy to get the true believers would up like a group of striped nosed baboons in a primate house throwing feces against the wall. The mid-terms should b interesting.

At 9:39am on August 9, 2014, Andrew Bradford Hoke said…

Hello Loren,

Thanks for welcoming me to the site, and sorry for taking so long to get back to you.

I'm really enjoying this online community. I'm learning a lot and thinkg a lot :)

At 2:39pm on August 6, 2014, Patricia said…

Could probably make the attempt Loren. I feel pretty green here as I was no computer expert to begin with.

I just got thoroughly fed up to the teeth & beyond with Windows getting sticky, & all costly the antivirus/spyware which are MUSTS to run anything! The straw that broke the camel's back was I heard support for Windows 7 runs out in January, but a subscription could be purchased yearly for 5 more years of support. Mr. Gates is getting no more of my pension! I tried a macbook, but couldn't upgrade it & could not afford anything newer. This refurbished vaio 15" laptop was $75 with a fresh install of the Ubuntu.

I'll start writing a draft maybe, & see how it goes.

Thanks Loren.

At 6:02am on July 7, 2014, Zerin Firoz said…

Ya Bangladesh and thanks a lot again for welcoming me so warmly! :)

At 7:42am on June 23, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren! What an affirmation of what I have been trying to get across sine the 1980s. I watched it happen, slowly at first, and then exponentially. I didn't have a computer in those days and did all the calculations from paper and pencil and watched the trendline move upward. 

Thank you much! Indeed, I will order the book and look forward to reading it. 

Buy the way, I didn't see confirmation from economists, even though I read everything I can get my hands on. One day, I ran across Steve Keen, an economist from Australia and he confirmed what I was seeing. Whew!

At 9:42pm on April 26, 2014, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

I edited the title, but once the URL is created, that's fixed.

At 3:08pm on April 21, 2014, K J said…

Thanks for your welcome! I applied to the Clergy Project nearly a year ago and was refused because I could not answer the screener's questions "correctly". At the time I had just admitted to myself (after a 15 year horrendously painful journey) that I am an Atheist, so perhaps that's why I wasn't able to satisfy the screener. I'm considering re-applying, as I am better able to express my thoughts and position. Appreciate your encouragement.

At 1:56pm on February 12, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren, just to let you know I have seen the article you recommended and have it highlighted to read more thoroughly. Thanks for thinking of me about Reagan and Obama. No doubt, I will have a comment or two to make. 

At 8:39am on January 28, 2014, Michael Penn said…
I just replied you from my private e-mail as a message did not show up in Nexus. After the reply I could click here and go to the comment wall. I have Firefox and have not had this problem before. It might be Charter on this end, OR just clear up after I reboot the computer. Who knows? I do know that I cannot click "message" on your Nexus page and send you anything. That part just does not work. Earlier clicking DOG's link to a reply about Walter Brown did not work. That link is working agian now. Very strange problem.

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Seth Andrews - "The Ultimate Question"

Posted on July 9, 2014 at 7:00am 6 Comments

Seth Andrews is NOT “The Thinking Atheist.”  He’ll tell you this himself, and doubtless, he’s tired of disavowing that that sobriquet was in any way meant to represent him.  He wanted it to be an icon to represent atheists who THINK, who have reasoned their way to the conclusion: “Religion simply does not make sense.”  All the above notwithstanding, there can be no argument that Mr. Andrews is A thinking atheist, even if he isn’t THE Thinking Atheist.

As evidence to…


The Problem With "The Leftovers"

Posted on June 30, 2014 at 9:14am 15 Comments

When we think of irrational behavior, we naturally think of human beings first, of their ability to act based on belief rather than fact, to operate without regard to their own wellbeing or that of others they are charged with caring for or some other related behavioral anomaly.  However, what if there were an irrationality in the laws of physics and of nature, which allowed two percent of the world’s population to suddenly vanish, with the speed of throwing a light switch?  Babies from…


The Wisdom of Bertolt Brecht

Posted on June 14, 2014 at 11:38am 7 Comments

Saturday morning.  My wife sleeps in because she can and I don’t because my sleep-in gene wigged out about 10 squares back.  Feed the cats, check email, scope out what’s going on with Atheist Nexus and Car and Driver Backfires and it’s not even 7:30 yet.  Okay, time for breakfast, then.  A bowl of Rice Chex and a glass of OJ later and eight o’clock is still at least 15 minutes away.  A quick check on YouTube tells me that not a whole lot new is going on there, but, out of somewhere in…


My Response to the Cancellation of "Atheist America"

Posted on May 2, 2014 at 6:23am 15 Comments

As Matthew Greenberg alerted us yesterday, a planned exhibit - "Atheist America" - has been cancelled by the Smithsonian.  To put it at its mildest, I am NOT down with that and less so that this decision was caused by threats of violence from people who would have us believe they are…


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