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World of Batsh!t - #2: Moon Loons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pat Jun 10. 7 Replies

The moon's a balloon, so says the song.  Problem is, there's a guy out there, perhaps more than one, who want to claim that the moon is actually a PROJECTION (up around 55,000 ft, so he claims!), and…Continue

Tags: CoolHardLogic, batshit, hologram, moon

World of Batsh!t - #1: Sky Demons (CoolHardLogic - YouTube)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 5. 6 Replies

We've all seen it - claims either so outrageous or so ignorant that they test the bounds of credibility, and they're usually, though not always associated with religion.  Well, it would seem that…Continue

Tags: mon-roe, Sky Demons, CoolHardLogic, batshit

What kind of smoke alarms do you have? (Daily Kos)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 26. 4 Replies

I get an email of links to mostly political pieces from the Daily Kos every day, and that's how I became aware of the following.  Personally, I have no idea whether the three smoke detectors we have…Continue

Tags: carbon monoxide, photoelectric, ionization, detector, smoke

Thinkers Anonymous

Started this discussion. Last reply by Freethinker31 Jul 28. 16 Replies

Right off the top - I did not write this, and I honestly do not know who did.  I stumbled onto it this morning on the hard drive of my laptop, in a folder of a collection of written pieces I have…Continue

Tags: anonymous, thinkers, humor


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About Me:
I'm a semi-retired / involuntarily unemployed electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here a touch over four years!), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller commented on Daniel W (Sentient Biped)'s blog post Scruffy, Gnarly, Sometimes Grouchy, Loyal, Beautiful, Beloved Old Dogs
"Couple of neat lookin' fellas there, Daniel.  Give 'em both a pet-pet for me!"
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"I think Bach is referring to the notion of "self-fulfilling prophecy" in a sense. An appropriate interpretation might be Expect your limitations to restrict you and they will. Expect to surpass your limitations and you will. Kind of…"
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"sorry for typos. tablet wont let me review and edit. time to get out the lsptop."
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"As I age and my illness progresses, I add more to the "cant do" category. There is a sence of loss, and even grieving about that. I dont want to retire but sm making long term plans to do do because I cant take it anymore, and adding to…"
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Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"The Muscato quote should be nailed to the foreheads of every proselytizing idiot who thinks they have a right to shove us into their preconceived mold of normalcy.Very good stuff, Mindy - thanks for posting it."
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"We'd also relearn what science offers because those phenomena are out there to be learned.  They aren't squirreled away in a book which someone wrote on a lark.  Part of science's job is to describe reality in quantifiable…"
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"if all traces of our scientific knowledge were wiped away, we would eventually rediscover much the same knowledge Partly because science is relatively modest about its reality claims.  It astonishes me when I encounter religious people online…"
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"I forget who pointed out that if all traces of (say) Christianity were wiped from the earth, we wouldn't recreate the same characters and stories. But if all traces of our scientific knowledge were wiped away, we would eventually rediscover…"
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""Religions have tens of thousands of versions of the truth. Science only has one - the one that works!" -- me"
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Loren Miller replied to Deidre's discussion Dogmatic atheism?
"In case you haven't noticed, truth HASN'T prevailed.  Indeed, truth is being fought by  believers, left and right, because 1) it has the unmitigated nerve to  disagree with their precious holy book and 2) it happens to be…"
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Dillahunty VS Bruggencate Debate In A Nutshell

"Sadly, bobh, that's precisely what Bruggencate deals in."
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"From where I sit, it means clinging to what you can't do, whether because of fear or habit or a desire to play it safe or whatever.  Consider the following:Look, I can't get involved. I've got work to do. It's not that I…"
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"OK Loren, how do you interpret "Argue for your limitations,"?"
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"I don't know what that means either! Sometime I am dense."
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"What on Earth does that mean? Let me think a bit. "Argue for your limitations," OK, my limitations: I can't write my books. Forty years I wanted to write my book. All I get are parts. Little pieces. Sometimes big chunks. A paragraph…"
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"Because the wiser people understand the limits of what they know, while the fools and fanatics cannot be bothered with anything resembling limits.  They create their own reality out of whole cloth and don't care whether it corresponds with…"
Loren Miller replied to Deidre's discussion Dogmatic atheism?
"The ceremony of innocence is drowned;The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.-- William Butler Yeats, "The Second Coming"Joni Mitchell did a brilliant adaptation of Yeats' work some years ago: "
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"But, as Dirty Harry said, A man's got to know his limitations. I guess one just shouldn't argue for them."
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Argue for Your Limitations...

"I loved Bach's book "The Bridge Across Forever"."

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At 11:59am on October 22, 2014, Idaho Spud said…

Loren, is there a way to block a specific person from showing-up in my e-mail?

At 10:19pm on October 10, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Oh Loren, you torture me. I love Kahlua and Cointreau and they play terrible tricks on my diabetes. Actually, the liver is what is thrown off track and creates pain like you would not believe. I love alcohol. I love beer. I really love Glenmorangie single malt Scotch. These are loves of the past. I'll do the coffee, whipped cream and a sprinkle of cinnamon. 


At 8:09pm on October 10, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Oh Loren! I like anything coffee. I would like the recipe. Thanks 

At 9:44am on October 4, 2014, TheraminTrees said…

Cheers Loren. NIce to meet you. My name's Link by the way. Been away from YT for a while, but recently returned and feels nice to be back. Only came across Atheist Nexus a few days ago, but seems like a engaging space. All the best. 

At 9:49am on September 13, 2014, Pat said…

Judge Posner wrote the opinion. This may come as a surprise, but Posner was appointed to the federal appeals court by none other than Ronald Reagan. However, as the Republican Party shifted further and further to the extreme right, he distanced himself from it. If you can get the audio link that recorded the oral arguments, it is fascinating. Posner politely rips the opponents of marriage equality a new one.

At 6:47pm on August 22, 2014, Pat said…

I tend to agree that the next President will be a woman. It will, in all probability, be Jeb Bush v. Hilllary Clinton. My $$$ is on Hillary, just because the Bush name is a gross anathema. If so, the teabaggers will continue to obstruct anything to improve or advance the US. I listen to them scream "I want my country back." Me? I want want my country forward.

At 12:03pm on August 22, 2014, Pat said…

Loren, sorry it's taken me so darn long to get back to you about Boehner's lawsuit against the President. You're correct in that I found it...well, not interesting from the standpoint of Boehner...but more of a bad episode of bizarre theater here in the US.

The author of the article in Daily Kos is 100% correct in that federal courts, unlike state courts, are courts of very limited jurisdiction. The only cases federal courts can hear are those enumerated in the US Constitution,an interpretation of a provision of the Constitution, or what what Congress authorizes them to hear.

Here's the real underlying stupidity of this lawsuit. Congress could pass a statute giving federal courts jurisdiction to hear this case. Before it goes into effect, guess what chief executive of the US government has to sign it into law?

The whole thing is nothing more than a propaganda ploy to get the true believers would up like a group of striped nosed baboons in a primate house throwing feces against the wall. The mid-terms should b interesting.

At 9:39am on August 9, 2014, Andrew Bradford Hoke said…

Hello Loren,

Thanks for welcoming me to the site, and sorry for taking so long to get back to you.

I'm really enjoying this online community. I'm learning a lot and thinkg a lot :)

At 6:02am on July 7, 2014, Zerin Firoz said…

Ya Bangladesh and thanks a lot again for welcoming me so warmly! :)

At 7:42am on June 23, 2014, Joan Denoo said…

Loren! What an affirmation of what I have been trying to get across sine the 1980s. I watched it happen, slowly at first, and then exponentially. I didn't have a computer in those days and did all the calculations from paper and pencil and watched the trendline move upward. 

Thank you much! Indeed, I will order the book and look forward to reading it. 

Buy the way, I didn't see confirmation from economists, even though I read everything I can get my hands on. One day, I ran across Steve Keen, an economist from Australia and he confirmed what I was seeing. Whew!

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The Particular Problem with Islam

Posted on October 13, 2014 at 9:53am 17 Comments

On Sunday morning, 12 October, 2014, I listened to Reza Aslan as he spent three minutes saying next to nothing of consequence regarding the contretemps of a week ago between Sam Harris and Ben Affleck on Real Time with Bill Maher.  Whatever Aslan wanted to accomplish with his vacuous commentary is beyond me, which doesn’t stop me from seeing it and him as being problematic as…


"Break a Leg"? Thanks, I'd Rather Not

Posted on October 5, 2014 at 11:30am 21 Comments

I was watching a segment of CBS Sunday Morning today, when a segment was presented about a new Broadway production, “It’s Only a Play.”  During that piece, Lesley Stahl asked the cast about the expected fortunes of this new work and what the reviews might be.  The reactions of the players, whether feigned or real, bothered the hell out of me and were of the tenor of “you don’t EVER talk about that in the theater!”  Eventually, there was conversation on those issues, but that the superstition…


The Irony of a Frightened Jehovah

Posted on September 7, 2014 at 10:25am 4 Comments

I was watching a profile piece on CBS Sunday Morning about actor Steve Bucemi a bit ago, when I heard that actor in one of his roles offer the following poignant observation:

Do you think God stays in heaven, because he too lives in fear of what he’s created?

If there were a god of any stripe who was responsible for the creation of Homo sapiens, I should think he’d be pissing his pants by now, and with good reason.  Ever since Yahweh made the…


A New Icon for Atheists - Frank Sinatra!

Posted on September 4, 2014 at 7:19am 12 Comments

I can remember the voice of Frank Sinatra from back when I was a kid.  My father wasn't quite a fan, but he had more than a couple albums which got played regularly and which I can still recall in my head when I want to.  Certainly, Ol' Blue Eyes was a vocal technician of the first water.  His intonation, treatment of even the simplest phrase, breath control and overall execution place him deservedly in a rarefied atmosphere shared with a scant few other artists, and that by itself is…


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