"So, what you're saying is that science can not disprove unfalsifiable propositions. You're right; it says that they're useless and not to be trusted. That's why we reject the concept as unfounded.
Why do you keep…"
"Err, you might want to clean that up a bit, Ceil. I get what you're trying to say, but I disagree with most of the actual statements in that sentence. Here's a better way to think about it, I find:
Life is not a specific bit of…"
"That's one of the ultimate questions of the proposition, which we would eventually expect to get to, through scientific examination, yeah. I'd be happy with a demonstrated effect and falsifiability, to begin with, but I'd want a…"
"Dude, you're not addressing this scientifically. This statement is freaking bonkers:
And Ceil isn't spinning it. She's demonstrating that something you reject is rejected on the same grounds as what we're discussing.…"
"Sorry to double-respond to this one, but this is important, since you seem to be under the impression that you're engaging in scientific reasoning here.
Scientifically speaking, the concept of an afterlife isn't even at square one.…"
"We do, however, have many studies and experiments that indicate that our consciousness is simply an emergent process of our brains and nothing to suggest its existence outside of the physical.
Why aren't you a deist, if this is the sort of…"
"This is where skepticism comes in. The only people who have proposed the idea of an afterlife are the same sorts of bullshit merchants who push gods.
Come on, John, seriously? You're making the exact same argument that Deepak…"
"Heh, I love watching bad, Christian apologists (sorry, that was redundant) try to take a crap all over the theory of evolution, then try to support the argument from design. Uhhhh, try again. Which of these actually explains something,…"
"A bit of etymological clarification can be helpful, though, for people who aren't as up on the discussion. It helps to contrast the a- prefix with the im- prefix, as they modify 'moral' and other words.
We need to come up with a…"
"Yeah, just move back up the line to the last post which has a reply link, when that happens, and it will get stuck on the end of the chain. That means we've hit maximum nesting depth, which is something like 8.
I was born in '76, so…"
"You can't rule out an afterlife, sure, but almost all of us who are atheists/skeptics (most of the atheist community) say that it's stupid to believe in something like that when the "evidence" for it is purely anecdotal and…"
Compared to the Philly area where I was born and raised, the pacnw is much more my style! There are many more "spiritual" people than religious, but still... Luckily I am married to a Catholic who accepts me just the way I am! I raised three kids who are atheists, their choice as I never closed any doors they wanted to look through, so I have my own little world where I am comfortable.
I LOVE to debate, especially with believers- sadly no one wants to be on the opposing side. :(
The whole brainwashing thing floors me. Blind faith in a mean, vindictive, spiteful, omnipotent presence is so mind blowing to me!
haha the dog helps me with the neurotic.I've been having a lot of trouble with anxiety recently so being with my buddy helps. I have a hard time being around people because I just can't relate to like 90% of them.
No, not lovely at all. Some Mormons, some others. It's an organized community stalk. I try to ignore it. But,like me, it just won't go away! Which is what a few very pissy people want. The others just play follow the leader. What better place for that than here?
The part of TN I live in does not atleast. I would love to move to another state somehow, to a more liberal community. That's a world I've never had the privelege to experience. I live in the backwoods with churches around every corner. Now, I'm being kicked out and losing my boyfriend of almost 2 years because I refuse to follow the christian lifestyle that he and his family are deeply involved in. He says the devil has a stronghold on me and its very frustrating. I'm suffocated by this fantasy cult community. And to boot, all of the shelters are faith based and require chapel attendance in return for food and a bed. So, yes you may be able to see why I'm searching for support on the internet lol.
This town is so small and the people are so narrow minded. There's practically a church on every corner and unfortunately, I'm not exaggerating too much, they're everywhere. I also have the added "benefit" of living with hyper religious Mormons who are all too pleased to casually spout their nonsense, but clam right the hell up when I get all secular on their asses.
Its almost next to impossible to even find a university professor outside of more liberal universities or colleges like UP who doesn't frown upon atheism . There's always been a stigma that being godless is equal to being immoral or innately evil. I have to fake faith and its churning my innards every time I have to go to church.
Hi! No, I'm not Latina suprisingly! I used to tutor Spanish-speaking ESL students, and when I'd tell them my name ("Hola, soy Christiana"), they'd nod and smile and look at me as if to say, "Oh, you're a Christian, that's great... but what's your name?" lol. I was named after my British great-grandmother, who we think was named from the book, "Pilgrim's Progress." The main character's name is Christian and his wife is Christiana. :) Nice to meet you!