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Is perception necessary for conscious thought?

Started Nov 22, 2012 0 Replies

A mind that has never been stimulated has no basis by which it could learn. My theory is that all thought, knowledge, and imagination, and even the qualia of conscious existence must call upon…Continue

The Origin of Senses

Started this discussion. Last reply by AgeOfAtheists14 Nov 22, 2012. 2 Replies

It is often accepted that the brain interprets perception picked up by sensory organs; yet when a line is drawn in the hand with a finger, it is the hand that feels, not the brain or the back of the…Continue

Most Atheists Are Not Secular Humanists...

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jonathan Chang Sep 19, 2012. 16 Replies

...And most Humanists are not freethinkers. Certainly not the likes of PZ Meyer or the more fervent members of Atheist+, or the radical neo-liberal who follow ideology qua religion. I'm definitely…Continue

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Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"If something has a pattern of causing harm, then our pattern if dealing with it might be anger. Neither if these require free will to exist. There is no rational ground to absolve responsibility from the lack of free will, especially when you…"
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Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"There are two conceptions of 'existence' that you are using interchangeably when they are not. Determinism is not a thing, but the conception, or classification, of events. It does not physically exist. The number '1', which is…"
yesterday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"The Libet conclusion is stretching, as all his experiment proved was that different stimuli arrive into fruition at different speeds. That one can appear to change his mind does not proved that the change is uncaused. In fact, we have a large body…"
yesterday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"If you agree with the laws of ohysics, either classical physics or quantum physics, then I don't see how you can consistently assert free will."
yesterday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"Determinism doesn't exist, it is just a logical inevitability of what does exist. It is not a physical observation, but a logical deduction, like quantum mechanics, which makes it no less valid."
yesterday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"Actually, I assumed that from the blog you posted earlier. The problem with rejecting determinism out of hand is you get positions like metaphysical libertarianism, which argues that because certain aspects of the world are indeterminate, the…"
Tuesday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"I apologize for misreading your post. You did not say that "Nothing is certain". The first half of my post still stands. The problem with a three-value system is two: 1. An appeal to ignorance should never be used to justify uncertainty.…"
Tuesday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"My last sentence doesn't tell you anything (remember that?). In logic, the assertion that P (is true) is equivalent to P must be true. After all, something that is, must be. A tree must exist in order for it to exist, if it might not exist,…"
Monday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"Technical jargon is usually used to mask the lack of argument, as in this case--10 pages later and the Dr. only seems interested in throwing darts blindly to see what sticks. Any attempt to establish relation is met with sarcasm or mockery. It is…"
Monday
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"Would you prefer if we attach "maybe" to the end of every sentence, such as "Science is incoherent, maybe", or "God is a logical necessity, maybe"? To say that God is not a logical necessity is apparently too strong a…"
Jul 7
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"Sarcasm is what people turn to when they cannot coherently explain their position."
Jul 6
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"Sorry to be frank, but this is a fallacy of association. The fact that some people have faulty conclusions of a kind does not make all conclusions faulty. Science is about making mistakes and correcting them. When a fact is confirmed and considered…"
Jul 6
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"It depends on the context. If we were discussing horticulture, we could say that recombination of alleles to produce genotypes of the heritage, or that F1 hybrids should share the traits of its heirloom parents, is deterministic. If we were…"
Jul 6
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"The appeal to awareness is what guides Jeremy Bentham's Principles of Morals and Legislation, when he argues for four aspects in the consideration of legal punishment. This is undoubtedly based on an ethical consideration, since Bentham is a…"
Jul 6
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"I am a proponent of semantics, which I think is the single most important branch of philosophy. It is underrated, and could get to the root of a lot of problems that are being discussed. I think that a lot of what is being attributed to…"
Jul 6
Jonathan Chang replied to Anthony Jordan's discussion Free Will [Sam Harris]
"QI doesn't follow any macro biological system as far as I know, so rather than the values randomly occurring in line with our physiology to change the way we act, and do so in a manner to significantly alter the result of WW2, I think it is…"
Jul 6

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Determinism and Science

Posted on September 5, 2012 at 7:53pm 9 Comments

I just made a post in the forum that I believe is substantial enough to warrant its own discussion. It is a thought experiment meant to disprove "free will"; it is a mind-bending concept for sure, enough so that I spent time unsuccessfully trying to disprove myself thinking there must be something wrong with my logic. But I can think of no other way. Perhaps you guys could let me know what you think, or if you see any failures in this line of…

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At 3:15pm on June 29, 2012, Dr. Terence Meaden said…

Hello Jonathan 

Welcome to this world of rationality, truth and peace, where common sense and science lead to freethinking wisdom --- as you know as an atheist and freethinker like me.

We invite you to make good friends by joining the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Gods, Atheism, Evolution, Darwin..." with 700 discussion topics and 3500 members.

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At 9:49am on June 18, 2012, Steph S. said…

Greetings! Welcome to the site!

 
 
 

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