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Addicts and alcoholics are more rational that we thought

Who knew?AA, NA and all the peer-to-peer fellowships that subscribe to the 12 Step formula of transforming from hopelessly addicted to clean and sober are criticized for a theistic bias. The catch, especially for a skeptic, is that 12 Step recovery is predicated on turning ones will and life over to the care of "God as we understand Him." By testing the waters with a secular recovery book, I found that market has an enthusiastic membership of atheists.Last week I launched Beyond Beleif:…See More

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"Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life cracks to 100 Amazon sales in 12 Step Recovery: https://www.createspace.com/4127122"

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Lillie commented on Joe C's blog post AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer

"I have been attending AA meetings now for a good many one day at a times. I have never had a problem with theists. In fact, I have been in many meetings where the use of "God" as a Higher Power is promptly clarified for the…"

Jan 17

Joe C commented on Joe C's blog post AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer

"Agreed. I think the cause of a conflict of creed in AA is that sober atheists are a threat to AA literalists. If, to the literalist, only divine intervention can relieve the obsession to drink, then the presence of sober atheists is a problem. In…"

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Loren Miller commented on Joe C's blog post AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer

"My problem with basing any kind of recovery on a putative "higher power" is that, in the final analysis, any change brought about on a person will ultimately source From The Person Himself. No supposed "higher power" has…"

Jan 16

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AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer

Recovery from addiction is life-saving. That's good. In the program of Alcoholics Anonymous there is a pamphlet called, "Do You Think You're Different?" Everyone who struggles with addiction has a hard time owning up to the fact that the tail now wags the dog, that they are powerless over a process or substance that is making their life unmanageable. At least this is how the abstinence based recovery programs speak of addiction: A recreational behavior or substance use becomes habitual to the…See More

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Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step LifeFinally, daily reflections for nonbelievers, freethinkers and everyone. The addiction/recovery community is dominated by the 12 Step model which was always a pluralist society whereby recovery was the…

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"Have you heard? AA has always stated at meetings and in outreach, "This is a spiritual, not a religious organization." The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking...BUT, in Indianapolis, Des Moines and Toronto,…"

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"Welcome, Joe! Glad you could join us. :D Please consider joining a group to meet people and talk about anything that's on your mind, Hang With Friends. You might also like Sound Advice, Atheist Writers, Politics, Economics & Religion, The…"

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"Hello Joe Welcome to this world of rationality, truth and peace, where common sense helped by science leads to freethinking wisdom as you know very well. We invite you to make good friends by joining the busy group "ORIGINS:…"

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At 7:16pm on March 27, 2012, Steph S. said…: Greetings! Welcome to the site!

At 4:00pm on March 27, 2012, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…: Welcome, Joe! Glad you could join us. :D

Please consider joining a group to meet people and talk about anything that's on your mind, Hang With Friends. You might also like Sound Advice, Atheist Writers, Politics, Economics & Religion, The Skeptic Hour, and American Heathen®. After you've searched for stuff that interests you in "Groups" above and in the "Forums", don't forget to look at recent activity which hides along the right margin of the page all the way at the bottom.

At 2:59pm on March 27, 2012, Dr. Terence Meaden said…: Hello Joe

Welcome to this world of rationality, truth and peace, where common sense helped by science leads to freethinking wisdom as you know very well.

We invite you to make good friends by joining the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Gods, Atheism, Evolution, Darwin..." with 666 discussion topics and 3333 members.

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