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Joe C replied to Jeff Dempsey's discussion Atheist Advice For A Drug Addict or Alcoholic
"AA (NA etc) work for me. Sure it was written from a Christian context but this is the 21st century. I relied on Living Sober in the early years. It's a secular look at AA life published by AA in the 1970s. There is a lot of great literature by…"
Jul 5
Joe C replied to diane sholly's discussion New in recovery in the group Atheists, Addictions, 12 Step Recovery, and Alternatives
"I am a member of one of these Canadian AA groups that was kicked to the curb by the local Intergroup. In fact, we still aren't in the Toronto meeting list or have a voice on the Toronto Intergroup floor. The same game-playing is now going on…"
Dec 3, 2013
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Fictional look at AA culture in a zombie apocolypse setting

A book just came out by a New York lawyer by day, 12 Step prowler and author by night who goes by the pen name Michele Miller.The setting is this new zombie apocalypses craze, a la Walking Dead or WWZ, neither of which I have every seen. I don't make time for this genre of story telling. I am not above…See More
Dec 3, 2013
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"Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life The first daily reflection book for addicts and alcoholics without a theistic slant."
Dec 2, 2013
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Luara commented on Joe C's blog post AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer
"Much of the AA literature is written in an external locus of control language "no human power could relieve our alcoholism; God could and would if he were sought." There is a problem with people trying to "white-knucle it". …"
Dec 2, 2013
Joe C replied to William Brown's discussion Confronting the Fellowship of NA. in the group Atheists, Addictions, 12 Step Recovery, and Alternatives
"NA did come out with a new book called Living Clean in 2012. Not unlike AA's Living Sober it doesn't really look at the 12 Steps but more of the practical aspects of incorporating healthy living in a crazy world and some of the age-old…"
Dec 2, 2013
Joe C replied to Joe S.'s discussion Intergroup Intelligentsia - The Thought Police in the group Atheists, Addictions, 12 Step Recovery, and Alternatives
"Vancouver Canada is going through the same thing now, Joe. There are two AA groups for atheists and agnostics and they have been arbitrarily taken out of the meeting book and face being pitched from the Intergroup floor in January. Of course, being…"
Dec 2, 2013
Joe C commented on Joe C's blog post AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer
"Hey Tim, congrats on the 4 years.Olympia and Seattle have agnostic AA groups. Also if you ever go south, I don't know where Newport is, but Portland has a group of like-minded folks too. Here's the world directory…"
Dec 2, 2013
Luara commented on Joe C's blog post AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer
"Ppl tell me to pray or give it to god and I just give a wry smile and say thank you. I would hate having to keep silent about something important like that. It seems very oppressive. any change brought about on a person will ultimately source From…"
Dec 2, 2013
Tim Bales commented on Joe C's blog post AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer
"Thanks for this. I am coming up on 4 years sober and I have always kept my belief to myself. I do not tell people that I am an atheist.  Ppl tell me to pray or give it to god and I just give a wry smile and say thank you. I take and give what I…"
Dec 1, 2013
Joe C replied to William Brown's discussion Confronting the Fellowship of NA. in the group Atheists, Addictions, 12 Step Recovery, and Alternatives
"Atheists & Secular Humanists in 12 Step Fellowships  is a group on Facebook."
Aug 23, 2013
Joe C commented on Laura's group Sound Advice
"I host IndieCan Radio, heard on SiriusXM The Verge and several community/college FM stations in Canada. "The best music you've never heard!" http://indiecan.com "
Aug 23, 2013
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Joe C added a discussion to the group Atheists, Addictions, 12 Step Recovery, and Alternatives
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The growing secular voice in 12 Step Recovery

I am really happy to find this community. I was reading about the introduction of a secular 12 Steps to NA World Service. That sounds like a great idea that will meet some resistance. Organizations either adapt or reify into obscurity. AA is having a hard time getting a spirituality pamphlet approved by the Conference floor and some say it's because the inclusion of atheists and agnostics talking about their AA life is untenable to some of the more superstitious members.I do like NA's new book,…See More
Aug 23, 2013

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I write mostly about addiction and recovery but also about music and finance. I support my passions with a day job as a financial planner.

I have a book, Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life that has been in the top 100 Amazon sales for addiction/recovery and I blog about recovery at RebellionDogsPublishing.com and AAagnostica.org

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AA is spiritual, not religious, now hold my hand while we recite the Lords Prayer

Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:02pm 7 Comments

Recovery from addiction is life-saving. That's good. In the program of Alcoholics Anonymous there is a pamphlet called, "Do You Think You're Different?" Everyone who struggles with addiction has a hard time owning up to the fact that the tail now wags the dog, that they are powerless over a process or substance that is making their life unmanageable. At least this is how the abstinence based recovery programs speak of addiction: A recreational behavior or substance use becomes…

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At 7:16pm on March 27, 2012, Steph S. said…

Greetings! Welcome to the site!

At 4:00pm on March 27, 2012, Ruth Anthony-Gardner said…

Welcome, Joe! Glad you could join us. :D

Please consider joining a group to meet people and talk about anything that's on your mind, Hang With Friends. You might also like Sound Advice, Atheist Writers, Politics, Economics & Religion, The Skeptic Hour, and American Heathen®. After you've searched for stuff that interests you in "Groups" above and in the "Forums", don't forget to look at recent activity which hides along the right margin of the page all the way at the bottom.

At 2:59pm on March 27, 2012, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
Hello Joe
Welcome to this world of rationality, truth and peace, where common sense helped by science leads to freethinking wisdom as you know very well.  
  
We invite you to make good friends by joining the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Gods, Atheism, Evolution, Darwin..." with 666 discussion topics and 3333 members.
 
 
 

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