"Well, I can almost respect the WWCoG for chucking the whole God-is-one-yet-three-distinct-beings-simultaneously nonsense. The Catholic church grabs the whole mess and bathes in the wonderful mystery that is their god. Bunch of incurious…"
"Ah, yeah, parental spiritual questing will definitely expand your exposure as a child, as you get dragged along for the ride.
And yeah, you mentioned guilt and shame. I left those parts out of my Catholic upbringing. They were definitely…"
We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.
"Heh, wow. That's an impressive resume. What the heck made you jump to so many different denominations? I can see Southern Baptist to Pentecostal or something similar, but how do you range so widely?
You must have an awesome…"
"Since you are new to Atheism, you still have some deeply rooted religious programming to eliminate from your mind. Believe me, I have been on the road toward being an Atheist for almost 20 years. I still find old thoughts and feelings that are…"
Well, I can almost respect the WWCoG for chucking the whole God-is-one-yet-three-distinct-beings-simultaneously nonsense. The Catholic church grabs the whole mess and bathes in the wonderful mystery that is their god. Bunch of incurious sheep.
That's one of the things about the Seventh Day Adventists that blows my mind, too. I mean, I expect that sort of stupidity from the Jehovah's Witnesses. They actively discourage too much education, since it can harm your faith. The Seventh Day Adventists have their own freaking universities, though. What's their excuse?
I wouldn't say that I actually felt the guilt and shame, as much as I had people trying to heap it upon me. I have vague memories of disbelief going back before my First Communion, which is when you start confession. Personally, I always just made shit up, since I couldn't remember anything really wrong that I had done, by the time I got to confession.
It always seems so perverse teaching a 6 year-old to confess his/her sins. Of course the Catholic church has had a long time to perfect its indoctrination techniques. They know what they're doing.
As for the competition to wrack up the most things to confess ... yeah, that's definitely a thing. Catholics are the biggest bunch of hypocrites. I always wondered how many actually believe and how many are just going through the motions, out of familial obligation.
Ah, yeah, parental spiritual questing will definitely expand your exposure as a child, as you get dragged along for the ride.
And yeah, you mentioned guilt and shame. I left those parts out of my Catholic upbringing. They were definitely there, because ... well, you know Catholicism ... but I think they were overshadowed by the boredom by a good margin.
That's interesting with the rejection of the Trinity, in the WWCoG. Do they go back to the Ebionite perspective that Jesus was just a guy who Yahweh picked, or do they turn him into a more literal son of God and divine through that association, but not literally a part of the whole?
Heh, that's awesome, that the creationism is part of what knocked you out of the spiritual stuff in general. Was it something like a, "Well, if they're that wrong about this, what else are they utterly wrong about?" sort of moment?