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Why do bad things happen?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Jedi Wanderer Apr 28, 2012. 11 Replies 0 Likes
I know that the problem of evil has been beaten to death...BUT how do you respond to theistic argument that God does not guarantee that evil and suffering will not occur. To me, this is a fatal flaw…Continue
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Jedi Wanderer replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"Have a half-sister that I never met, only spoke to a few times on the phone and through email, and friended her on facebook. The other day her status was "Such a beautiful day today. God is great!" I'm like wow, yeah, allahu akbar!…"
booklover replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"I still don't get why religious people have bad things happen to them and then pray to the god that caused it or let it happen. Insane! Right now I know a little girl that just had a liver-transplant and everyone is praying for her,…"
Richard replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"I think I'll start by disavowing that this is a satisfactory answer to your question; but . . .
First, I like to quote Archibald MacLeish's play J.B. (based on the biblical Book of Job): "If God is God, God is not good. If God is…"
Michael Black replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"I'm afraid that you are tilting with windmills by trying to argue with a theist. I don't think the problem with evil can be summed up more succinctly than Epicurus'es statement. If you have the patients to corner a…"
Jedi Wanderer replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"Yeah it just utterly collapses upon itself. I had discussions where the theist would say that we have free will because god wants to either test us or educate us. Well how fucked up is that! Here is what I wrote previously:
Apparently (the…"
Ian Malcolm replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"I think that what I am getting at is the argument that the world includes suffering and, basically, that god has no responsibility to prevent or mitigate it.
Of course I agree with all of you. I think the whole thing is rife with internal…"
Jedi Wanderer replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"Sorry to just be cutting and pasting my argument from another discussion here, but as I just wrote it and the discussion seems to be multiplying, then I suppose so shall my responses! Here it was:
It's all so ridiculous. According to…"
Pat replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able,
Then he is not omnipotent.
If he is he able, but not willing,
Then he is malevolent.
If he is he both able and willing,
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing,
Then why call him…"
Napoleon Bonaparte replied to Ian Malcolm's discussion Why do bad things happen?
"Another alternative is to throw it all in the trash can; gods, devils, evil ,theology, omnipotence, fatal flaws and all."
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Why do bad things happen?
I know that the problem of evil has been beaten to death...BUT how do you respond to theistic argument that God does not guarantee that evil and suffering will not occur. To me, this is a fatal flaw in the existence of a benevolent god. This gets enmeshed with free will in Christian theology as either a test or a fact of human existence, apparently designed by a god. Another alternative is that this benevolent god is not omnipotent.See More
Ian Malcolm replied to Jedi Wanderer's discussion What Happened Before the Big Bang
"I can't believe nobody responded to this! This will probably never even not noticed. Oh well.
The "before the Big Bang" part is problematic, and nobody has an answer to what this even means. Before the Big Bang is meaningless if time…"
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Nice to find a community
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 7:54pm 5 Comments 1 Like
I think I have been getting a bit lonely not having other atheists to talk to, and I think my wife is getting tired of listening. Glad to be here!
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- At 10:44am on April 23, 2012,
Steph S. said… Greetings! Welcome to the site!
- At 7:32am on April 23, 2012,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… Hi Ian
Welcome to this world of rationality, truth and peace, where common sense and science lead to freethinking wisdom --- as you know well as a life long atheist.
We invite you to make good friends by joining the busy group "ORIGINS: Universe, Astronomy, Life, Earth, Humans, Religion, Gods, Atheism, Evolution, Darwin..." with 680 discussion topics and 3400 members.http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin
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Ruth Anthony-Gardner said… Welcome, Ian! Glad you could join us. :D
Please consider joining a group to meet people and talk about anything that's on your mind, Hang With Friends. You might also like Atheist Teachers, Atheists who love Science!, Atheist Artists, Atheists who are Artists, Beer, and Parenting Little Heathens. After you've searched for stuff that interests you in "Groups" above and in the "Forums", don't forget to look at recent activity which hides along the right margin of the page all the way at the bottom.
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