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Started this discussion. Last reply by Regina M Mar 9, 2011. 9 Replies 0 Likes
Ok, I have a question for any ex-thologians, current theologians, recently de-converted Christians or anyone else with thoughts on the matter. It comes from an interesting situation. On the weekend,…Continue
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Bob Hadababyitsaboy replied to Glen Barton's discussion How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
"I would definitely recommend Rob bell. He's pretty popular in Christian circles although his newest book, though not even out yet, has gotten a lot of flack for its supposed heresy of universalism. Heres his youtube video promoting the book:…"
Glen Barton replied to Glen Barton's discussion Curing fundos of hell fear. in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"I actually posted this in two places, and got some really thoughtful and great responses in both places. I'll post the reply I made in the other forum here as well - you'll be able to tell what the gist was of the people I specifically…"
Glen Barton replied to Glen Barton's discussion How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
"Really great ideas there - thanks everyone.
Jason - yes, the notion of universal salvation is one that is actually proposed by some evangelical writers as well, so may be a way to lead with mum.
And I do know of people who's parents have…"
Gianni Di replied to Glen Barton's discussion Curing fundos of hell fear. in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"Hi Glen,
Unfortunately, there is no explanation which would satisfy a fundamentalist. There are specific references, even by Jesus as to the fiery torments e.g. it is better to enter life maimed than to have both hands and enter hell "WHERE…"
Prog Rock Girl replied to Glen Barton's discussion How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
"Curing people of a fear of hell is not only useful for Christians, but also people of other religions, and even ex-Christians, who might still have that fear in the back of their mind."
Terrence Lee Reed replied to Glen Barton's discussion How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
"My idea of hell would be living eternity with Christian fundamentalists and Pentecostals. Give me the fire and brimstone, please!"
Terrence Lee Reed replied to Glen Barton's discussion How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
"Amen."
Jason George replied to Glen Barton's discussion How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
"When discussing the fate of my 'immortal soul' with Christians, I propose the notion of Universal Salvation. If Jesus was sent to earth to pay the price for sin, then he did so. To suggest anything less than the ultimate sacrifice paying…"
Steve replied to Glen Barton's discussion How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
"Try to substitute the fear of wasting this life worrying about the fantasies con men use to control us. Use anger to get them to see that religions are giant con game and they have been taken in. Religion thrives on pride; use pride to…"
L.Hunter replied to Glen Barton's discussion Curing fundos of hell fear. in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"I for one am very interested in curing our loved ones of this great and unjustified fear. If I had the answer I'd be a millionaire. Both of your suggestions seem to have some validation to them. However lying to a dying mother to ease her fears…"
Sicile replied to Glen Barton's discussion Curing fundos of hell fear. in the group Life After Christian Fundamentalism
"Glen,
I am so glad your wrote this! I have a similar situation. I so want to be open about my beliefs, but my parents are fundamentalists as well, and I just don't want to ruin what is left of their retired lives. They have…"
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Curing fundos of hell fear.
Ok, I have a question for any ex-thologians, current theologians, recently de-converted Christians or anyone else with thoughts on the matter. It comes from an interesting situation. On the weekend, my 60 year old mum went skydiving. Pretty proud of her courage, but she was a bit anxious leading up to it and in her typical fashion, took it to the melodramatic length of writing us all notesd to read in case she died. We all said "thanks for the lovely thoughts but don't be silly" and of…See More
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How to cure Christians of their fear of hell
Ok, I have a question for any ex-thologians, current theologians, recently de-converted Christians or anyone else with thoughts on the matter. It comes from an interesting situation. On the weekend, my 60 year old mum went skydiving. Pretty proud of her courage, but she was a bit anxious leading up to it and in her typical fashion, took it to the melodramatic length of writing us all notesd to read in case she died. We all said "thanks for the lovely thoughts but don't be silly" and of…See More
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Posted on October 25, 2009 at 9:57pm 0 Comments 0 Likes
This is a blog I have just posted in my Blog site: http://olasyreflexiones.blogspot.com/2009/10/religious-education.html.
The last time I posted anything that linked to facebook, I was preached at by a dozen or so Christians, so if anyone wants to befriend me on facebook and participate in the debate that I'm sure will ensue, please feel free.… Continue
The last time I posted anything that linked to facebook, I was preached at by a dozen or so Christians, so if anyone wants to befriend me on facebook and participate in the debate that I'm sure will ensue, please feel free.… Continue
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- At 11:17am on May 10, 2010,
Amanda Mae Burklow said… - Hey I just saw that you had an idea for a book with personal stories of people who've left their faith. I'm working a writing project right now along those lines!
- At 2:32pm on October 15, 2009,
Dr. Terence Meaden said… - Welcome to Atheist Nexus. You will make many good friends here. As an atheist you recognise religion for the fraud that it is, and you join us on the intellectual high ground with hopefully a real feel-good factor---while the religious flounder, frightened by their own superstitions, on the brainless low ground.
Terry Meaden founder of the busy Atheist Nexus discussion group
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Try visiting and joining "Origins", and enjoy the discussions.
- At 3:34am on October 15, 2009,
Chrys Stevenson said… - There are volunteers - I'm not sure on what basis they're going to work - e.g. whether they get free tickets. Jason Ball, president of the University of Melbourne Secular Society is co-ordinating volunteers. Contact David Nicholls at info@atheistfoundation.org.au for more info.
- At 1:59am on October 15, 2009, Chrys Stevenson said…
- Hi Glen - glad you found us. As for the convention, prices are extremely low for this kind of event with this level of speaker. A full weekend ticket is $260 and that includes drinks and cocktails on Friday night and lunch and refreshments on Saturday and Sunday. If you're really keen to see the speakers, don't count on a DVD. There is no guarantee that sessions will be filmed, and the organizers have no rights to film the Dawkins presentation. This is a once-in-a-lifetime event in your own town - it would be such a shame to miss it. Plus, as an added bonus you get to meet me! I am to the Convention as a set of steak knives is to Danoz Direct!
- At 12:32am on October 15, 2009, Chrys Stevenson said…
- Hi Glen! Welcome to Atheist Nexus. I'm Kris from Queensland. I'd like to invite you to join our Aussie, Kiwi and South Pacific Atheists group.
I'd also like to let you know about the Rise of Atheism Global Atheist Convention to be held in Melbourne next March. It's going to be huge! Speakers will include Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers, Peter Singer and many more.
I hope you will join us - both in our group and at the convention.
Enjoy the site!
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