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Jim DePaulo commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"@ Mark I agree with the effects that age may have (and from your photo I've got more than a few years on you) As our future becomes more and more fixed the present becomes much more vibrant - what you've got is pretty much it and were you…"
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Mark R. Stevens commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"Strongly agree that the times when I am not considering the past or pondering the future are the best of all. I could list but I'm sure you get the idea. Quite probably what some consider a religious experience. I don't believe you could…"
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Gavin Doyle commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
""How about this: Our past and future create our present. Everything we have done, seen, said and all that we hope to and will do create a point in time called me standing right here. I believe it in an equation and you must have all three to…"
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The appeal to human nature and the natural order.

As Susan Neiman notes in her book 'Moral Clarity' (despite the title, Neiman is not a right wing religious nut), "...everyone wants natures blessings for whatever arrangements they considered self-evident. It's an old tradition whose reach even today is almost infinite; as historian Lorraine Datson has shown, moral appeals to nature have run the gamut from South Afraican apartheid to Sierra club environmentalism."It's a good point and worth exploring because such appeals to nature are made in…See More
Aug 17, 2010
Mark R. Stevens commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"How about this: Our past and future create our present. Everything we have done, seen, said and all that we hope to and will do create a point in time called me standing right here. I believe it in an equation and you must have all three to exist…"
Aug 16, 2010
Jim DePaulo commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"Hope is the hook used by politicians, advertisers and religions to sell themselves, their product or their ideology - no more no less. Most people see their future as being better than their present (human nature). As such, they are easy prey to…"
Aug 16, 2010
Mark R. Stevens commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"Daniel Dennett, who writes much on conciousness, says one of the functions of our brain is to project ourselves into the future. How exactly could a person exist only in the present with no plan for going forward? And usually the plan for going…"
Aug 16, 2010
Gavin Doyle commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"" Does the "great rock star conspiracy" have a moderating effect that actually holds people back? Has anyone else read "the paradox of choice", because according to that ... it might. Basically the idea is: the more choices…"
Aug 16, 2010
Jack Matirko commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"I'm going to riff off Melissa's and Prog Rock Girl's ideas here for a sec because it got me thinking. Does the "great rock star conspiracy" have a moderating effect that actually holds people back? Has anyone else read…"
Aug 16, 2010
Melissa Wells commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"I see where you are going with this and it is something I have been saying for a long time except I have always called it "The Great Rock Star Conspiracy"(mostly to be funny). But seriously we are all told from the time we are little that…"
Aug 15, 2010
Jack Matirko commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"Well ... I think it's largely a question of individual taste, and not really one of right and wrong. Which sounds more appealing, a roller coaster of emotional ups and downs, with moments of both great joy and deep despair? Or a life…"
Aug 15, 2010
Prog Rock Girl commented on Gavin Doyle's blog post The modern reverence of potential.
"Sometimes I think the obsession with potential may be the reason so many are depressed. We all have many potentials, and can't fulfill them all. People beat themselves up over their potential going to waste. But they forget what it actually is:…"
Aug 15, 2010
Gavin Doyle posted a blog post

The modern reverence of potential.

A few months back, I became interested in Stoic philosophy. I was surprised to discover stoic philosophers considered hope a dangerous indulgence and one of the two ills which prevent human fulfilment; the second being nostalgia.The reasoning runs roughly like this : To a stoic, the past and future do not exist. There is only the present. So by attaching oneself to the past or by hoping for a better future, we devalue the present and prevent ourselves from living life to the full. Stoicism here…See More
Aug 15, 2010
Gavin Doyle commented on Gary Connolly's blog post One less stupid idea
"Mostly likely. You have the weekend to find something to entertain me Monday morning."
Aug 13, 2010
Gavin Doyle commented on Gary Connolly's blog post One less stupid idea
"The importance and influence of popular culture is underestimated or unacknowledged among the Atheist community obsessed with branding themselves as 'freethinkers'. Atheism was literally a niche among educated people until the culture…"
Aug 13, 2010

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The appeal to human nature and the natural order.

Posted on August 17, 2010 at 7:45am 0 Comments

As Susan Neiman notes in her book 'Moral Clarity' (despite the title, Neiman is not a right wing religious nut), "...everyone wants natures blessings for whatever arrangements they considered self-evident. It's an old tradition whose reach even today is almost infinite; as historian Lorraine Datson has shown, moral appeals to nature have run the gamut from South Afraican apartheid to Sierra club environmentalism."



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Posted on August 15, 2010 at 5:30pm 11 Comments

A few months back, I became interested in Stoic philosophy. I was surprised to discover stoic philosophers considered hope a dangerous indulgence and one of the two ills which prevent human fulfilment; the second being nostalgia.



The reasoning runs roughly like this : To a stoic, the past and future do not exist. There is only the present. So by attaching oneself to the past or by hoping for a better future, we devalue the present and prevent ourselves from living life to the full.… Continue

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At 5:38pm on August 17, 2010, Dr. Terence Meaden said…
Hello Gavin, and welcome to this friendly meeting place with its global and Irish freethinkers who recognise that fictional gods and pervasive religions exist to control vulnerable superstitious people including defenceless children.

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We invite you to join us and 1770 others.
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At 9:28am on August 13, 2010, Gary Connolly said…
Ah Sputnik, this is one place I spend time
At 12:29am on August 9, 2010, Atheist Princess said…
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